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3 Halves

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 7:20:35 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 3 Halves
I am making the rounds everywhere I can to expose the scam that MF Doom tried to run in California this past week. I went to his show in SF at the Independent and it was a circus. Someone with Doom's mask took the stage but it was clearly not Victor as this dude was a little shorter and had no sign of the pot belly that Doom has (and still had when I checked out his NY Rock the Bells performance on YouTube.) This impostor tried to lip sync through the set, but people started to catch on quickly and the "performers" just cut out after less than 20 minutes. I thought it was strange that the management at Independent announced before "Doom" took the stage that there was to be "no cameras, video, or cell phone cameras of any kind". This is standard, but it's never been announced so adamantly. Team Doom was hoping to pull a fast one. They did this in L.A. a few days before coming north to SF. I have lost all respect for MF Doom. He is now Milli Vanilli to me. But at least those jokers showed up and danced! This dude was probably still partying in New York while his entourage tried to cover for him and collect the money. Sorry Victor. Didn't work. Now your name is tainted forever. Dont support this impostor. We need to clean up Hip Hop.

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Gully

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 7:32:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gully   Click Here to Email Gully
Son wears a mask, what the fuck did you expect?

Doom, as an MC, is boring as fuck most of the time, but he makes some decent to alright beats PLUS he's a genius for this.

He could be "performing" in 8 different venue's at once, make 8 times the money. Genius.

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sage UGHH Artist

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 7:36:34 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for sage   Click Here to Email sage
Now that the cats out of the bag (before he could get away with playing 8 different places at once) he won't be playing nearly as many 20 minute shows. Damn shame.

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3 Halves

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 8:53:28 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 3 Halves
Youre callin this motherfucker a genius because he sent an impostor to lip sync for him? Now that's whats wrong with Hip Hop and society today. Thank you for wrappin it all up Gully. We have all come to expect and accept bullshit. Not only accept it, but praise it as "genius"?! Einstein was a genius. Russell Simmons I might call a genius. MF Doom is a two-bit slickster punk bitch. See, I actually care about the future of hip hop. Too many of you are content with letting Hip Hop rot by supporting wack, fake, shady motherfuckas like Doom.

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Gully

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 9:22:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gully   Click Here to Email Gully
Too many of you are content with letting Hip Hop rot by supporting wack, fake, shady motherfuckas like Doom.

I don't support DOOM (never have, never will), but you're willingly paying to see a grown man in a mask perform shitty songs on a small stage. What thee fuck did you expect? You think he gives a fuck about you guys enjoying his performance? Dude's a known snake, Grimm's spoken on it many times.

All he does is release mediocre beat tapes & shitty album after shitty album, solely because his fan base eats it up.

Maybe you should look into supporting some artists with the drive, integrity & passion for this shit. That way you can avoid a replay of this situation.

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sperdoj

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 9:59:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for sperdoj
To be fair, everyone should really wait until somebody TRULY knows what happened...if the guy is sick or something, whatever..shit happens..still doesn't explain the impersonating and shit... The only way he can truly save his rep is if it was him and he had some fucked up throat issues last minute or something. I'm just saying, this guy was talking shit about ?uestlove not showing up to Toronto and ?uest just cut him up because he had a legit reason...

Seriously though, if all this shit IS true, he doesn't deserve anybody's money...it's not fuckin funny! I went to a show last week with Abdominal headlining (pretty respected in Toronto and UK)...the guy played for NINE people...5 of which were in the group that played directly before him!!! That's how much he cares about his fans (all four of us lol).

Anyways, summary: if he's sick, he's sick, that's shitty. If he wasn't sick DON'T TAKE THIS SHIT!

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Quaker Oats

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 10:52:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Quaker Oats
yeah i heard someone on another forum talk about how this guy who came up in Cali and was clearly not DOOM, this is unacceptable, did u get a refund or anything?

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Gully

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 10:55:16 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gully   Click Here to Email Gully
gully, mf doom is not for you, mf is a real emcee and that is not what your into. your into bullshit pop shit like 50 cent.. you basicly listen to these cornball ass fakers and have no clue about real emcee's. So enjoy listening to fake ass shit you fake ass fan.

Ok, DOOM.

Go make another shitty alias and record a wack album under it.

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Grafh

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posted Friday, August 17, 2007 11:24:34 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Grafh
This isnt the first time DOOM has tried this, I remember a few years back he was suppose to do a photo shoot for XXL or the Source or somthing and he sent some other cat wearing his mask to take the photo's instead of him. Im a big DOOM fan but dude is indeed a Snake, its a shame he would try to fuck over the people who made him what he is by not even showing up to his own show.

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Barney Gumbel

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 1:46:10 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Barney Gumbel
it is fucked up because peeps who paid to see him got fucked over...

but on the opposite end, he IS a genius. Dude is crazy. He can anywhere at anytime! Like a real superhero!

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3 Halves

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 2:27:13 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 3 Halves
Doomsday is upon us all...

yo swole bank rolls done turned to lil ol anarxins/
get ready to pay the price hully Gully pee-wee no catchin

For real if you like underground shit, no masks, no bullshit, I recommend Zion i, Crown City Rockers, and Rosetta Stoned (Get ahold of the Green Giant Mix tape-- sick shit)

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qwot8ion

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 6:28:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for qwot8ion
how do we know this was doom's doing and not the venue itself tryin to hustle the crowds by using his name? sounds sketchy- doom is the vaudville villain, viktor the slickster, he would have concocted a much eviler scheme.

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Trees

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:12:19 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for <font color=red>Trees   Click Here to Email <font color=red>Trees
Not the first time I've heard of this. Several people I know who saw him perform at RTB in NYC said he was lip synching his entire set. Fakeness needs to be put on blast, even if it is DOOM. Weird.

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drukenrimesŪ

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:06:52 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for drukenrimesŪ
MF doom is the funniest person eva for this.

classic lol

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Napkin Hughes

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:26:29 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Napkin Hughes   Click Here to Email Napkin Hughes
The vaudevill villan album is still sick s fuk.

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Dr. Orgasmo Shabazz

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:49:29 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Dr. Orgasmo Shabazz
I heard DOOM's been dead for 8 months.

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Trees

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 1:43:29 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for <font color=red>Trees   Click Here to Email <font color=red>Trees
Oliver, what about Paul Wall is fake. Please tell me. Sorry if he doesn't rap about spaceships and krylon cans.

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wutangtattoo

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 5:07:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wutangtattoo
he's not a true artist, thats whats fake about Paul Wall

and dont play dumb like you actually think he is, you know better (i hope)

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Jace North

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 5:10:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jace North
Paul Wall > MF Doom

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3 Halves

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 5:53:40 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 3 Halves
Paul Wall understands his target audience. He knows how to make a flashy video and catchy hooks. Unfortunately that's about all it takes these days. I have no problem with Paul Wall, but he represents how far Hip Hop has sunk.

Paul Wall > Doom he is now

Paul Wall + MF Doom = Everything that is wrong with hip hop. Strictly for the camera bitches.

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rape dollars

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 6:01:16 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for rape dollars
pics or it diddn't happen

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Gully

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 6:34:49 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gully   Click Here to Email Gully
I have no problem with Paul Wall, but he represents how far Hip Hop has sunk.

Those Paul Wall & Cham mixtapes say otherwise.

"Waaaaaah Waaaaaah, Hip-Hop is dead. FUCK COMMERCIAL CRAP!!!111! UNDERGROUND LIKE I'M BURIED!!1!".

Hip-Hop's dead because of you stupid pilgrims paying money to see a grown man with a shitty flow perform in a mask.

Stop being a bitch.

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Trees

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 6:37:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for <font color=red>Trees   Click Here to Email <font color=red>Trees
Hey to each his own I guess. I liked Paul Wall's first solo album and a lot of shit that was coming outta houston during that time period. At least it's not run of the mill underground throwback 90s boom-bap. Dudes were bringing a fresh sound to the table.

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NoHeadlightz

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 7:34:02 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for NoHeadlightz
The Gawd Admiral Crumple should of been on RTB.

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Dunnie Bono

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 9:40:18 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Dunnie Bono
I've read about this a few different places...


http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2007/08/mf_doom_fucks_sf_wtf_went_down.php

http://forums.kidrobot.com/viewtopic.php?t=77337&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

http://dojothemouse.livejournal.com/216669.html

http://www.calendarlive.com/music/571196,0,6883666.event

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3 Halves

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:21:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 3 Halves
MF Doom is a fake, a cheat, a crook, a fraud... I been hoodwinked, bamboooozled! Run amok! This pilgrim didnt land on Plymouth Rock... Plymouth Rock landed on me!

Bitches!

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def_jukie_wookie

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posted Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:14:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for def_jukie_wookie
i don't see what the big deal is. someone mentioned before he's like Milli Vanilli, but doom makes his own beats, spits his own rhymes and therefore calling him a "fraud" is kinda stretching it. i ain't all that big on doom, but if u like his material and you're satisfied with his product, isn't that all that really matters?

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Gully

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 12:44:31 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gully   Click Here to Email Gully
To top it off no flow, no stl;ye, no presence, cant rhyme

Are you & I listening to the same Paul Wall?

Paul Wall's flow, presence, style, and rhyme schemes >>>> anything and everything MF DOOM (and i'm not even a Paul FAN, only Paul Wall shit I like outside of the mixtapes with Cham are guest apperances. I won't discredit his talent, because he's nicer than most of your shitty talentless Underground "Gods").

Stop being a fucking faggi0t, little bitch.

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hiphopisbeautifull

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 2:45:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for hiphopisbeautifull
lmmmao! man this is why i dont go to hip hop shows..... and this doesnt ruin my hip hop experience music is music so if i dont experience that shit it aint happenin

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jayinhk

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:43:34 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for jayinhk
While Doom ain't the nicest emcee in the game, he's still decent and his beats are bananas. If you're paying to see a muthafucka, he should be there instead of sending someone else to get on some milli vanilli shit.

On the other hand, he could body someone and be like, "it wasn't me, I was performing in Cali." heh

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one big corporate nigga

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:54:04 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for one big corporate nigga
it sounds like this crab oliver mccall has a vagina.

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c_rock

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:17:31 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for c_rock
i dont hate on paul wall because i think he does have some talent but when u make a comment like paul wall > mf doom u lose all credibility.

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spell it wit a p

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:18:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for spell it wit a p
MF DOOM = GENIUS

He's at home getting blunted and GETTING PAID while you're all standing in overcrowded places watching one of his homies walking around on stage, waiting for it to end as soon as possible so that he can get his part of the money...

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tablarasa

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 3:37:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tablarasa
I seem to have missed the part where this has anything to do with Paul Wall...is Paul Wall trying to masquerade as MF Doom at live events or something? Paul Wall and Doom are co-conspirators in this bogus (no)show fiasco? In the words of OMC, "How bizzare, how bizzare".

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Youz'a Bitch

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This site underground hip hop.com has trully sunk to a new low. We are now debuting whether underground legend MF Doom is better than Paul Wall how can you have such a debate? Who would ever compare the two, it is just completely obvious that..Paul Wall is ten times better!

Fuck doom fuck his idiot fans who pay to see the hip hop equivalent of a star wars convention rapper..this is what you get when your an MF Doom fan, to me its hilarious.

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high-c-dc

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:01:44 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for high-c-dc   Click Here to Email high-c-dc
shit is genius...

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MC Chuckles

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:10:28 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for MC Chuckles
haha, MF Doom is a fool if this is true. he would be blacklisted from the entire rap scene

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tablarasa

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:14:56 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tablarasa
"This site underground hip hop.com has trully sunk to a new low. We are now debuting whether underground legend MF Doom is better than Paul Wall"

yes, shocking isn't it, I mean really inexplicable.

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Streamwinner

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:26:36 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Streamwinner
I can't wait to buy more of his stuff!!!

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Youz'a Bitch

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:26:41 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Youz'a Bitch   Click Here to Email Youz'a Bitch
^ Reading comprehension ain't your best trait is it

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Streamwinner

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 6:47:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Streamwinner
^ Semantic comprehension isn't your best trait, is it? Not to mention grammar and punctuation.

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tablarasa

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 7:06:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tablarasa
what really needs to happen is an MF Doom and Paul Wall side-project...

it could go by the name of DoomWall.

who wouldn't buy it? recipie for success IMO

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spideyman510

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posted Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:30:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for spideyman510
yo i am still a big DOOM fan but i must admit that he deserves everything people say about him in here, his dumbass didn't even show up to rock the bells in sf either

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3 Halves

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 3:28:06 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 3 Halves
Ok I started this post so let me try to bring it to an end. I was pissed that Doom tried to run a scam last Wednesday night in SF. I dont know if he's sick, dead, or just doesnt give a shit, but he had the option as a professional to cancel his show if he was unable to make it. Dont treat us like suckas (especially in the Sucka Free!) Now that Ive had a few days to calm down and do some research on his bio, etc. I have come to realize that this is actually an interesting story. He fell off the earth before between like 93-97 after KMD fell apart. Then he gave birth to Metal Face and all these alter egos and has never been photographed without the mask ever since. He really is like a comic book character and this is just the latest edition in the series. Where is MF Doom? Who's behind the mask? What will become of Viktor the Slikstor? I wont buy any more of his shit, but I do want answers. I want to read the final chapter...

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underground=no money

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 8:44:52 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for underground=no money
the old swisha house freestyle mixtapes with cham and paul wall, shits on just about anything mf doom has ever released

go listen to some of it...

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Tired & Broke

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 9:10:10 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Tired & Broke
what really needs to happen is an MF Doom and Paul Wall side-project...

it could go by the name of DoomWall.


you dumbass it would be called Wall Of Doom

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ra knowledge

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 9:13:29 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for ra knowledge
Paul MF?

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Bakke

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 9:18:19 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Bakke   Click Here to Email Bakke
Doom is dead..

Raekwon replaced him, why da fuck do y'all think Ghost suddenly started to fuck with him?

haha, nah for real though, I can't do anything other than laugh over this cat who has so clearly gotten his feelings hurt over his favorite rapper being a snake.. HAHAHAHA

and yes, Doom is a well known snake, and as Gully said, Grimm have already said that several times.

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underground=no money

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 9:26:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for underground=no money
What It Doom??

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hiphoptime

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 12:45:15 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for hiphoptime
fuck Doom he can't rap for shit.

only good thing are his beats.

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SIC

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 1:13:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for SIC
You only have yourselves to blame for continuing to support this cat even though he hasn't dropped anything good since 02.

I must agree though, it is a great way to market. Mufucka gets paid no matter what.

I may not like duke's music, but I can respect his hustle. Him and 9th Wonder probably get more hate from other underground artists, than any other underground rappers or producers, but it shows why.

These cats know how to make bank, while most of these other undergrounder nobodies worry about rent every month, these cats know how to exploit the basic cliches of underground hiphop fans.

Props to Doom. He knows how to exploit you geeks better than your regular nobody rapper.

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Don Rodriguez

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posted Monday, August 20, 2007 3:43:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Don Rodriguez
Fakeness needs to be put on blast, even if it is DOOM.

Meanwhile, when I exposed Brother Ali, everyone said "Well, his music is still dope."

Fuck all of you.

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