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ShaolinAssasin

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posted Saturday, July 08, 2017 9:35:20 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for ShaolinAssasin
Why do you people listen to these guys?

Maybe I'm too stoopid to understand their lyrics but like why would anyone sit down and listen to music you have to decipher?

Everybody hyped up Homeboy Sandman but then when I listened to his shit I got so bored. Yeah mad technical and lyrical but that shit will cure insomnia.

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Saturday, July 08, 2017 9:36:56 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
aesop rock is dope but i cant fuck with sandman and ive tried a bunch. his voice is wack.

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tippi dink

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posted Saturday, July 08, 2017 10:06:20 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
"Maybe I'm too stoopid to understand their lyrics but like why would anyone sit down and listen to music you have to decipher?"

it's not even like that though, when i listen to a rapper like aesop i'm not sitting there trying to dissect and break down every single line as i'm hearing it. i kinda just focus on the imagery or whatever my initial interpretation of a line is at first, or a general feeling that it conveys, and then with repeated listens it starts to unravel and make perfect sense. it's really rewarding to me and adds a ton of replay value to a project. i'll listen to a song i've heard 50 times before and STILL get something new out of it. personally i like not knowing exactly what an artist means right away when they say something. that goes for all art.. comics, movies, books, etc. you might not, but that cryptic, dense, esoteric style is just my taste. i think it's a lot of fun. not all of aesop's songs are that coded either, especially not his more recent stuff. some of it is way more direct and in-your-face. i think your average hip hop fan should be able to understand what the theme or basic concept is of almost every track on "the impossible kid" without any trouble.

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tippi dink

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posted Saturday, July 08, 2017 10:07:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
also i just want to make it clear, that's not the only reason i like aesop or other similar artists. i wouldn't listen to their music if i didn't also think it sounded good as well.

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Saturday, July 08, 2017 10:12:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Aesop has grown on me over the years but co-sign ETW, never been able to get into Sandman.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure these lyrics out and this was a track of the year contender from 2016...

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culturesclothing

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posted Saturday, July 08, 2017 11:29:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for culturesclothing
Both are dope to me. I like it when I have to decipher the meaning behind a song. It gives it more replay value for me personally. I think that Homeboy Sandman is really dope. He can be hit or miss, but his songs that I like I like a lot.

"Syrup", "Environmental Studies", "So Strange Here" and "Couple Things" by Aesop Rock & Homeboy Sandman are dope tracks.

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Bluestratoss

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:02:25 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Bluestratoss
Probably cos aesop does shit like dropping album of the year straight Hiphop whilst guys on here pay for exclusive boxsets of yet another 4 out of 10 ghost face album that's forgotten about 2 months after its released.

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dr.proF

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:24:43 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dr.proF   Click Here to Email dr.proF
Tippi nailed it

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eighty five

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:31:42 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for eighty five
White nerds wanna listen to white nerds

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Grafh

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 12:23:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Grafh
I think the biggest problem with artist like Aesop is people go into his music thinking they NEED to understand everything, when honestly you don't. Dude has been one of my all-time favorite rappers since I first heard him back in 01 and I promise you there's still a lot of his shit that goes over my head. The enjoyment comes form vibing to the music and catching those random gems here and there until finally it all clicks and a whole section of the song comes together.

I've said this before and I stand by it, Aesop is the lyrical equivalent of graffiti. 90 percent of the time I see something tagged up I have no idea what the hell it says, but I still love it, it looks amazing as an artistic statement. Then one random day I'll walk by that same tag and boom, suddenly I can see what it says.

One of my favorite lines of his regarding his style

But fuck it it's ace rock six records of gibberish right?/
He's trying too hard to be weird and different right? (riiiiight)/
Or could it possibly just maybe be, his lessons/
Can't be summed up in a linear set of pop culture references?

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Lit Jagger

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 12:27:35 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Who says anyone likes em but a few fans on the net? no one knows they even exist

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Lit Jagger

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 12:31:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
people are actually writing essays on how they hear musiq? wow

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tippi dink

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 12:53:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
^ spot on

i honestly never really understood why people feel the need to completely discredit something just because they don't understand it immediately, or because they think art of any kind is bad because they have to think about it a little bit in order to appreciate it. do y'all realize how boring the world would be if everyone thought the same way and only made art that they felt 100% of people could understand because they were afraid that someone out there wouldn't be able to enjoy it for one reason or another?


Who says anyone likes em but a few fans on the net? no one knows they even exist

aes has one your favorite rapper's favorite rappers, has been on the billboard charts and on mtv, and has 500k+ listers on last.fm alone. also, even with the decline of physical sales, his last album has the highest first week sales out of his entire discography.

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tippi dink

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:01:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
and when i said "spot on" i obviously meant grafh

observe is of course completely wrong, as usual

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:11:35 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
#NeverForget

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tha $pace clock

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posted Sunday, July 09, 2017 5:10:25 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tha $pace clock
Tippi is right. Aesop paints such vivid imagery (yes homo) but I probably don't always interpret it the way he intends but it doesn't matter. Plus his voice is dope as fuck

HBS is meh. I don't really like him at all

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wicked 22.2

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Homeboy sandman has some stuff I like and stuff I don't like but he's crazy talented. New album is dope as fuck actually I keep on forgetting about how dope it was. Some great tracks on there.

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5th point

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 1:07:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 5th point   Click Here to Email 5th point
aes is dope everyone else already touched on his lyricism, but his production skills have really started to shine as well i mean fuck, skelethon and impossible kid are damn near exclusively self produced and all those beats are nuts...the drums in zzz top, the sublety of get out the car, the buildup in ruby 81, mystery fish beats crazy the metal gear solid samples fucking perfect...etc etc. plus his art is a genuine expression of himself he makes what he feels regardless of you thinking its "nerdy" that terms getting worn out to be honest, its like if someone does something deep, abstract, or intelligent its nerdy, fuck that.

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dr.proF

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 4:44:17 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dr.proF   Click Here to Email dr.proF
😂;😂;😂;clock effortlessly bodying observe

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 5:18:49 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
lupes favorite rapper would be aesop rock. lol at the trend guys like him, kanye and cudi set for black dudes for decades to come. remember in 93 wen bald black dudes were scary? fast forward to 2003 and we get sega references, japanese culture worship and female attire.



10 more yrs and up to date.....

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 5:20:53 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
this put fear in the hearts of men


now...

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 5:24:06 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
that said. i like early kanye better than homeboy sandman.

to quote and uncultured cheese eater: it is what it is

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 5:29:08 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
and karim i hope u kno


the outlook>>>>>homeboy sandmans discog

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dj rolo

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 8:31:31 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
Aesop def an acquired taste, i been rockin with him since 1999 and Earthworm and he original af

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eseph84

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 9:11:05 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for eseph84   Click Here to Email eseph84
yall keep sleepin on the sandman


the new album is growing on me

his name doesn't belong in this topic cuz his lyrics are nothing like aesops. funny how because they formed a group people auto think their styles are that similar.

homeboy makes dope normal guy rap and if you don't like it, you're probably a try hard wanna be superthug still bumping dip set 2nd tier rappers

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ShaolinAssasin

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 9:13:35 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for ShaolinAssasin
LOL

Cam'ron is a better rapper then HBS or Aesop Rock will ever be. Real talk.

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dr.proF

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 9:15:41 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dr.proF   Click Here to Email dr.proF
"Better"

Super real talk bros

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dj rolo

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 9:35:48 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
i actually like Sandman

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tippi dink

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 10:00:38 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
yeah boy sand is dope, i can see why people wouldn't like his voice or some of his tracks but like all of it. dude has so many different styles/flows and raps over a wide variety of beats. plus he's one of the only rappers who has actually made me laugh out loud. dude is hilarious.

also lol at someone thinking cam'ron is better than aes.

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dj rolo

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 10:15:08 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
^agree, very entertaining style and still got lyrics, i really liked his album from 2014

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tippi dink

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 10:23:17 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
yeah hallways and the good sun are my favorites, calm tornado was the first track i ever heard by him. shit blew me away. i love the third verse where he says:

Radio won't play though
DJ's on the payroll
No bueno!
(Sand, they playin' your record on the radio right now though)
Oh, Perhaps they know
This is not your typical plain old average Joe verses
It's Joe Versus The Volcano
Hobbes, Locke and Aesop's Fables
Planet Rock, Janis Joplin, Bach, hands that rocked cradle
"Sand build a ark, save the art" cried a archangel with a cocked halo
I had to nod, I could not say "no"
Wrote the calm in a tornado
Cause Americana been conned and been clogged, I been called; Drano
Sure as sand's wear see meets San Remo
I see ya and raise ya, I'm Razor Ramon


so ridiculous. kindness for weakness is the only project from him that i didn't love. it was still decent though, i think i liked that album more than most.

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Trylemma

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 10:56:06 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Trylemma
I'm pretty sure Aesop's total net is a milli+. He owns a place out here in Portland and owns a spot in NYC that he doesn't even live in. I've gone to multiple Aesop shows in the past 4 or so years - and they've all been fully sold out with the merch lines nearly out the door. If the guy only appeals to internet nerds - he's building a retirement off it.

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eseph84

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homeboy sandman is way better than cam and thats from an old cam fan

cam fell the fuck off after purple haze and if you can't hear that, clean them ears out boy boy

however, boy sand been cranking out great eps and lps for ten years straight now with no signs of stopping.

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LEX718

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Both of them are hit or miss with me.. Never been a huge fan of either but always respected their talent. I kind of have a Homeboy Sandman bias cause he went to JHS with me, lol.. but really because he impressed me with his live show earlier on in his career. He's creative AF. I've bought a couple of his projects over the years.

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dr.proF

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Yeah dude also a big cam fan and he fell way the fuck off. Even when when he was still making a decent comeback with araabmuzik and vado circa 2008-2012, he was far from his peak, quality wise.

Meanwhile aesop rock sounds the same if not better than when he started out.

Sandman is cool too, i've been digging him a lot these past couple years. The newer ep with aes and that ep homeboy did this year are both fire, but im reatively new to sandman's music

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I think the biggest problem with artist like Aesop is people go into his music thinking they NEED to understand everything, when honestly you don't. Dude has been one of my all-time favorite rappers since I first heard him back in 01 and I promise you there's still a lot of his shit that goes over my head. The enjoyment comes form vibing to the music and catching those random gems here and there until finally it all clicks and a whole section of the song comes together.

pretty much this. good shit grafh.

Aesop has dropped two of the best records in the last 5-6 years. the guy is a genius.

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tippi dink

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 11:42:15 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
agreed, i think their talent/skill is deniable even if you don't like their music. gotta respect dudes like DOOM, manhome sandboy, aes, busdriver, etc for kinda distinguishing themselves from the pack and creating their own lanes. yeah a rapper's voice is important and some can be an acquired taste, i completely get it if someone doesn't enjoy listening to someone's music because of how they sound. for me though there's more to appreciate about music than just that.

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PAhiphopFAN

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 11:57:31 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for PAhiphopFAN
Big fan of both. Waiting for Lice 3

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Decepticon_1_Galvatron

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Don't entertain this idiot.

WU DENG are nerds.

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tippi dink

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true. i always found it weird how the same people will shit on rappers for being "nerdy" or having a large vocabulary or more abstract/left field style will then turn around a listen to rappers who named themselves after comic book characters, reference cult classic martial arts films and cartoons/games, and talk about how their crew forms like voltron.

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cometh

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 8:15:58 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for cometh
this fagit shaolinasswipe talking shit about aesop and praising the GAME in another.. figures just anohter commercial luving faggot troll

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ShaolinAssasin

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 9:30:11 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for ShaolinAssasin
so having funny lyrics with linear progression is worse then some nerd spewing abstract bullshit?

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Loewi

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 9:34:28 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Cam can be abstract too

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Post Coital Cigarette

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i wont listen to sandman based on his stupid ass name. gaf

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tippi dink

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 10:11:08 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
so having funny lyrics with linear progression is worse then some nerd spewing abstract bullshit?

aes and homeboy sandman are both pretty funny man, did you even listen to any of their music or are you just trolling?

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I personally used to not care for aes or homeboy much for the same reasons you dont. They seemed pretentious. But the more i listen to rap the more bored i get with it. Aes and homeboy each have a unique sound. It's off-putting until it isn't. Several of my playlists play aesop rock with camron or even rick ross on shuffle right after. No need to choose one over the other, variety is nice

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tippi dink

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posted Monday, July 10, 2017 10:44:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
it's interesting too because they're really the opposite of that, aesop is probably one of the most humble dudes in hip hop. i can definitely see how someone wouldn't get that impression at first from his music though.

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5th point

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^ him and busdriver were probably the coolest mcs ive met.

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ShaolinAssasin

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posted Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:41:11 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for ShaolinAssasin
OK

I have decided to give Aesop Rock and Homeboy Sandman another chance. Gonna listen to their whole discographies.

Any books I should read before I listen again?

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tippi dink

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maybe a dictionary, since you seem to have so much trouble understanding the lyrics

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:48:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
lol tippi that was mean

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