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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:13:33 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
yo trust me i tried. i love the beats on HBO and shit but I just feel like this kid is beyond overrated. Somebody break down this verse for me...

What is he talkin' about? This is why he didn't get to ride along with WSG and Conway. I ain't feelin his shit at all. Why do y'all dickride this duck so much for??

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:20:30 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
album came out 2 years ago y'all talking about best album of 2018

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dr.proF

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 2:03:07 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dr.proF   Click Here to Email dr.proF
Best album of 2019 imho

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WiCkEd22

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I'm not feelin Mach Hommy either and I just don't get the hype around him or The God Fahim. smh

No clue why people dickride either one, especially Mach Hommy.

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dr.proF

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:12:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dr.proF   Click Here to Email dr.proF
I always smh when people like something i dont. IDIOTS

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:21:57 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
loewi bait thread

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SC1989

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 4:27:14 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for SC1989
He got very boreing very quickly

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tha $pace clock

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 4:41:26 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tha $pace clock
100% agreed he just isn't very good

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Throwing dogs

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 5:28:43 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Throwing dogs
He's dope. HBO is fire, best album of 2020 imo.

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:18:35 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
i mainly like fahim cause he puts out a lot of raw,ill material and he's a solid rapper and a decent producer with a good ear for samples. i dont get peoples blind/auto hate for him. i like mach hommy cause he has way above average wordplay, vocab, dope unpredictable stimulating flow/rhyme structure. unique and original ass emcee. hes over some peoples heads.

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Loewi

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25:52 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
*slits wrists after seeing comments*

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:31:55 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
He has one flow and honestly it's not good.

Damn shame they wasted all those beats on a C level rapper.

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Loewi

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:03:39 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
You ain't riding the wave

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tippi dink

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:04:36 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
i can only handle his music in small doses honestly but i really dug that EP he did with knxwledge, he is kind of a one trick pony though.

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Loewi

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:06:39 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
One trick pony? All of his projects are so different from each other

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tippi dink

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:21:29 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
in what ways? i'm specifically referring to his style of rapping compared to some others. there are some exceptions, but i think the more unconventional his songs are the better. he's good at what he does but his voice and delivery just gets old after a while imo. i've only heard HBO, FYI, the spook, and his dump gawd though.

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Loewi

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:30:01 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Different nuanced approaches to rap. Like The Spook and HBO are completely different concepts and I'm not just talking the beats

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tippi dink

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:37:11 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
"nuanced approaches" and "completely different" are contradictory though.

i'm not talking about conceptually either, just saying that i can't really listen to two of his projects back to back. love the best and he's a good lyricist but i'm just kinda over that whole style of rap in general atm.

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Loewi

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:39:32 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Differences in the profundity

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Harry Angel

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:41:01 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Harry Angel
I find most of the heavy praise to be on here. Mad gassed on this forum I reckon.

Other rap fans I know, say he's aight. Can take him or leave him kinda thing. Hie's still got a humble following. Ain't close to WSG and Conway etc.

I don't mind him. Doesn't exactly blow me away.

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mic_data

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 11:19:57 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for mic_data
Ha, I wanted to make this post myself a few weeks ago. I like the rare samples Fahim and Mach come up with, or whoever is producing them, but I don't find either of their verbal styles, especially Fahim to be very rhythmic or interesting. Even with the good samples, most of the songs I've heard have very repetitive loops, not much layered/complexity, but still I like the samples they find.

I'm not dissing them or the their fans, but I just didn't get it. I'm still going to give both another shot, I just need to get through some other albums first.

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:18:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
He's cool but I've never been hella high on him. I much prefer his straight forward style of rapping as opposed to his at times off beat, unorthodox one. I wish he would rap all the time like he does on here...



^His verse starts at the 5:15 mark.

With that being said Fahim + Mach > WSG + Conway over the past year. Much better duo.

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wicked 22.2

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He's the best out. Lyrically and stylistically not many today can fuck with him.

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:51:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
^You think HBO is a 2017 album so your opinion on him is null and void bruh.

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Loewi

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:59:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Me and WJ are pretty much the only people here who "dickride" him anyway. I guess it's because I do it excessively that it looks like the whole forum does it

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dj rolo

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:40:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
heads still arguing over HBO being a 2017 release lol ...but yo, Mach nice with it, haters gon hate...we already know this.

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Loewi

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:50:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
^They ain't riding the wave

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Sunday, August 13, 2017 11:32:17 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
He's not nice with it. He's borderline wack.

He ain't wavy either.

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dj rolo

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 8:50:11 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
^dudes like this are bored af and the highlight of their lives is to go online and "hate" ...shit is sad

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Loewi

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 8:53:41 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
H8az gon h8. Their loss

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tippi dink

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 9:47:02 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
man i hate when people say something is wack and they don't give a single reason why. not specifically going at buckthadevil here, but it's just something i've noticed people doing. it's not like that really benefits anyone, since no one could possibly know why you feel that way. criticism is important but only when it's constructive.

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88

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 10:33:33 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
buck, i will convince you. i'm putting a compilation together. give me time.

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no mask

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 11:52:04 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^i hear ya tippi. hard to tell why someones actually trying to discredit an artist. do they just not like the material or is it personal or they dont like the artist as a person? or is it that they are annoyed at the attention/success a certain artist is getting? motives are in question. if its just that they dont like the music/emcee why make a thread about that? making a thread about mach saying you dont like him seems more than you dont like him as an emcee or his output. seems like you mad!

mach getting known though- on some bigger projects this year(new alchemist etc). i can see why hes not for everyone as his style is unorthodox, wordplay can be rapid fire-make you work but not getting how anybody could say hes not dope or talented!

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 12:50:10 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
I posted one of his songs and ask someone to explain his verse to me. What is he even talking about? It's mostly incoherent nonsense with a gun reference or something expensive thrown in. I ain't hating just to hate. The dude just has bad form plain and simple . And then he got the gumption to ask for ridiculous amts of money on top. That's not what's up.

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dj rolo

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 12:55:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
cosign no mask

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Loewi

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 3:14:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's nonsense. That's like saying Aesop Rock sucks if you don't understand him

Maybe you have to be where Mach is from to understand everything

I admit I can't hear everything he says in that verse. I'd need someone with better ears to type it out for me

But you said HBO is wack. How is he spitting nonsense on there?

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 3:45:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
No. I said I love the beats on HBO.

Mach Hommy as a rapper is borderline wack. Westside Gunn is far and away a better rapper. It ain't even close.

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Loewi

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 3:48:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Okay, you said Mach-Hommy on HBO is wack. How so? Because he sure ain't spitting nonsense on that album

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^lol WSG aint close to mach- he has 1/10th the vocab, no creative wordplay or rhymes strucure, average rhymes and style and a grating high pitched voice that gets old quick.

for each their own though. i like WSG sometimes.

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Loewi

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 3:54:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
LOL no mask that's taking it too far. WSG has great vocab and wordplay. Much better than Conway's

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88

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 3:57:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's nonsense. That's like saying Aesop Rock sucks if you don't understand him. Maybe you have to be where Mach is from to understand everything

i hate the argument against critics that they just "didn't get it". that's such bullshit. the whole point of good art, compared to bad art, is clarity in intentions. if the critics didn't get it, it means it wasn't clear. even if the unclear message is absolutely profound, it doesn't matter. art is more about the how than the what. in other words, it's more about the clarity of expression than the actual message being expressed.

it's why people like ol' dirty bastard. his "how" is what's good, even though the "what" is stupid or inconsequential.

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:00:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
Comparing Aesop Rock to Mach Hommy is like comparing Ghostface to Lil Uzi Vert.

This site jocks him waaay too much imo.

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Loewi

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i hate the argument against critics that they just "didn't get it". that's such bullshit. the whole point of good art, compared to bad art, is clarity in intentions. if the critics didn't get it, it means it wasn't clear. even if the unclear message is absolutely profound, it doesn't matter. art is more about the how than the what. in other words, it's more about the clarity of expression than the actual message being expressed.

it's why people like ol' dirty bastard. his "how" is what's good, even though the "what" is stupid or inconsequential.


But there is evidence of people understanding Aesop Rock and even Mach-Hommy. Just because some people don't get it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense and that other people don't get it

And what if the artist's intentions were for not to have everyone get it. If you read/listened to Mach's interviews, he said his lyrics are codified in the vein of slaves having their own esoteric language. How is that aesthetic not good art?

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tippi dink

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:05:31 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
This site jocks him waaay too much imo.

i hope by "this site" you actually meant the 3 people on here that praise him like that and think he's the best rapper out there atm.

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Loewi

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:08:18 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Comparing Aesop Rock to Mach Hommy is like comparing Ghostface to Lil Uzi Vert.

How so? Both are cryptic styles that people say is nonsense, kinda what you're doing

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:19:10 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
Ghost rhymes cryptic, energetic and is considered GOAT in many circles.

Mach Hommy rhymes cryptic, lazy and uninspired.

The point is he ain't saying shit and the way he says it ain't shit. Lol.

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LiquidDo$e

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:19:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for LiquidDo$e
Yeah, him and Fahim both suck real bad.

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tippi dink

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it's more about the clarity of expression than the actual message being expressed.

i agree with what i THINK you're saying here, which is that whole idea that it's not about what you say but how you say it. however, i don't think that just because a few people don't understand the intentions or the message of a piece of art then that means it's bad or the artist failed. it would be so boring if artists only made stuff that they believed was accessible and that every single person would be able to appreciate or understand. in hip hop what i appreciate the most is when a rapper is simply speaking their truth and expressing themselves without pandering and with no regard as to how it will be interpreted. if no one understood a piece of art that would be one thing, but if it's 50/50 then i think the artist succeeded. a lot of the art that i love and consider to be great is pretty polarizing.

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Loewi

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:26:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Ghost rhymes cryptic, energetic and is considered GOAT in many circles. 

Mach Hommy rhymes cryptic, lazy and uninspired. 

The point is he ain't saying shit and the way he says it ain't shit. Lol.


That's what YOU think, but you have yet to prove it. You just said you don't understand it. Admittedly, I said I can't hear everything in that particular verse, but I have broken down HBO and its aesthetic a few times in the past. You have yet to prove why Mach on HBO is wack.

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:37:41 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
I posted up a song where he CLEARLY (Stephen A. Smith voice) came wack. I don't know how else to prove it for you. The beats on HBO are flames. The instrumental version of it would be the bomb cuz the only thing bringing it crashing down is the rapper. Can you honestly sit through more than 20 minutes of this guy? Cmon fam.

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88

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:40:48 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
And what if the artist's intentions were for not to have everyone get it. If you read/listened to Mach's interviews, he said his lyrics are codified in the vein of slaves having their own esoteric language. How is that aesthetic not good art?

yeah, it's cool to have other stuff going on beneath the surface, but, if the surface level is shit, it doesn't matter how great the deeper stuff is. i'm not referring to mach's music here, btw. just speaking in general terms.

i agree with what i THINK you're saying here, which is that whole idea that it's not about what you say but how you say it. however, i don't think that just because a few people don't understand the intentions or the message of a piece of art then that means it's bad or the artist failed. it would be so boring if artists only made stuff that they believed was accessible and that every single person would be able to appreciate or understand. in hip hop what i appreciate the most is when a rapper is simply speaking their truth and expressing themselves without pandering and with no regard as to how it will be interpreted. if no one understood a piece of art that would be one thing, but if it's 50/50 then i think the artist succeeded. a lot of the art that i love and consider to be great is pretty polarizing.

i understand what you're saying, tippi, and can agree with it. however, i think the hardest, and, therefore, most impressive art to make is the accessible kind. for example, the film, inside out, is far more impressive than a shane carruth film. i mean, do you realize how hard it would be to make the complex world building in inside out understandable to kids? and they pull it off and make it all seem easy and invisible? damn. film writing doesn't get much better than that film.

it's cool to like the niche stuff that isn't as accessible, but, in those cases, the criticisms must be accepted for what they are, rather than dismissed like how loewi's trying to dismiss them itt by implying that the critics are just idiots that don't understand the underlying genius. because making profound stuff happen beneath the surface is actually the easiest part. the hard part is making the surface level work, while tying it to the lower level stuff without making it all seem forced.

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88

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posted Monday, August 14, 2017 4:41:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Can you honestly sit through more than 20 minutes of this guy? Cmon fam.

lol, yes. i will show you, buck. be patient.

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