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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:27:16 AM
A great album and the first release from what would turn out to be one of the most consistent emcees of all time. Ironman was the last top shelf Wu solo album out of that first wave of solo's until Ghost himself released SC four years later. Whole album is littered with bangers but Assassination Day, Winter Warz, and Box In Hand got the most play from me and my boys when this dropped.
I knew it'd come down to Ghost and Mobb but i wasn't expecting Ghost to lead from start to finish with the voting. While Ironman didn't really pull away until yesterday i never felt as if it was threatened.
Here's the Top 10 from the final round...
Ghostface Killah – Ironman - 100 Mobb Deep - Hell on Earth - 82 Nas - It Was Written - 51 Outkast – ATLiens - 43 Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt - 41 Redman - Muddy Waters - 36 The Roots - Illadelph Halflife - 33 Heltah Skeltah – Nocturnal - 29 Jeru The Damaja - Wrath Of The Math - 28 Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst - 24
No huge surprises in the Top 10 although I've always thought that Nas album was overrated and while i knew it'd place in the Top 10 i wasn't expecting it to be third.
The next year we're doing is 1994 with the nomination thread going up Thursday morning. Thanks again to everyone that participated.
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Litney spears
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 10:40:42 AM You people actually believe this shit
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dj rolo
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 11:38:38 AM 1994 might be the GOAT year...gonna be interesting
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Stealy
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 11:52:21 AM Another wu or wu member album who would've thought... mehhh, Still shinning better than any track on this album. 95 aoty OB4CL aswell 🙄;🙄;🙄;🙄;🙄;🙄;
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ci_fus
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 12:41:17 PM Great album. Definitely expected this to win. Glad to see jay made top 5(though surprised it didn't beat Nas ((RD>IWW)).
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felipedahiphopadict01
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 12:53:35 PM "(odb screaming on daytona 500) ghoooost faaaceee killaaaaahh"
hell yeah i can believe it, finally justice has been done
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NoHeadlights
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 12:58:56 PM ATLines is AOTY
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felipedahiphopadict01
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 1:15:11 PM nope
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Lpac
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 2:33:54 PM I'm glad my boy Jeru finished in top ten
What a fucking year it's never been topped since although that old fgt Rolo probably thinks that KA album is better than all those Above
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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 4:12:20 PM
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Lpac
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 5:08:40 PM ^ lol what u mean?
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Lpac
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 5:16:21 PM ^ ha ha oh yeah Ghost won
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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 5:53:55 PM ^^yes lol. seriously jay 5th place wtf
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anti-stunna
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 6:08:43 PM Jeru The Damaja >
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Lpac
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 6:33:48 PM ^ Word to that Anti-Stunna
Yo Gino yeah I would have put Reasonable Doubt over It Was Written and ATliens, way better than both
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anti-stunna
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 6:39:53 PM Imagine listening to this on Mushrooms and Acid at the same dam time.... unreal
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anti-stunna
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 6:42:11 PM Also Real fucking Gangster shit right here, no wannabe stunna Outlaws bullshit.. Fucking straight from the murky depths of hell. High school was the best.
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ken bone
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 7:14:36 PM Cosign purp dash
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Clockworx (Admin)
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:25:10 PM I would've preferred Hell On Earth but the win was justified. Still a great album. To me those two and Outkast are on their own level with Jay-Z and Redman on the next tier.
I don't think 1994 is going to be competitive at all unfortunately. After we complete all the 90's years and pit the winners against each other is going to be a real treat. Even when we did that in the 00's it was obvious SC was going to win. Some of these 90's winners are first ballot classics so not going to be as clear a cut winner.
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putitonbigl
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:47:20 PM Love all those albums so hard to front ro much, but all eyez on me was iconic. Goat double album. Should of cracked the top ten, then again, nas is the only one i voted for that made it so i guess as usual my tastes dont align with the ughh majority. Meh
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Clockworx (Admin)
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posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:52:55 PM All Eyez On Me finished one point out of the Top 10. Amazing album with little filler. Would've been my 6th or 7th pick in the finals.
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dj rolo
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 7:58:16 AM ^and of course...Lpac cannot type a sentence without my name being in there somewhere. smh
Lpac, are you that dumb you don't realize you're obsessing over another man? you constantly display to everyone how much the thought of me consumes your daily life.
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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 8:44:14 AM lol this isnt even a ghost solo album. everybody who voted this #1 needs to dry up and go to detox asap.
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Seme__one
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 1:22:01 PM nah its not
its ok one of my least played wu joints
but forum has spoken
real Live is my shit from that year
^ ironically feat Ghostface
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the weatherman (Admin)
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 5:20:16 PM the amount of people hating on this album is fuckin hilarious....everyone loves this album until it gets album of the year over some obscure joint or your slept on album that's way too underrated....the only albums that had a chance to me were this or hell on earth...atliens is incredible too but the south never wins anything here.
that's it, that's the top 3. there were tons of other great shit from 96 too...nocturnal, muddy waters, illadelph, etc....but none of those were original or all that interesting....just very straightforward albums that played it way too safe to be better than ironman or hell on earth. both those joints did shit with production that still makes them sound fresh even today.
the loop on assassination day is godly, iron maiden sets the tone for the whole shit with the upbeat pace. one of tru masters best beats (fish) is also one of ghost's best songs. the beat flip on box in hand and the way rza flipped the vocals is just too ill. winter warz, daytona 500, camay, etc....all heat. yeah it's not a true ghost solo lp, more like an extended wu album, but that's kind of what makes it great to be honest. just an excellent record, bottom line....well deserved.
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Clockworx (Admin)
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 7:26:57 PM Yea Weather even if Hell On Earth would've won, which is as flawless an album as any, the same haters would've found a way to somehow hate on it.
I'm not beat to do a picture collage but in case heads were wondering, these are the winners so far...
1990 - Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted 1991 - Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory 1992 - Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother 1993 - Wu-Tang - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 1996 - Ghostface - Ironman 1997 - Wu-Tang - Wu-Tang Forever 1998 - Big Punisher - Capital Punishment 1999 - MF DOOM - Operation: Doomsday
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the weatherman (Admin)
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 7:32:04 PM funny thing is, i think the album that will win the decade isn't even on that list...it's the 94 or 95 album for sure.
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Clockworx (Admin)
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 7:37:13 PM I agree but either way i hope the voting comes down to the wire. The majority of these 90's voting threads have been blowouts by the second day of voting. I think the only two close ones where the two years Dre got gypped out.
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mic_data
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 7:48:55 PM Kind of surprised, I guess I shouldn't be- it was #7 on my list though.
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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 8:42:54 PM so one of those asshole wu albums is gonna win album of the 90s if illmatic doesnt.
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Clockworx (Admin)
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posted Monday, September 10, 2018 8:56:20 PM Wu dominated the 90's so it would make the most sense if they won.
The only album in that list i just typed thats even fucking with 36 Chambers, Ironman, and Forever is Capital Punishment. Those early 90's albums sound dated as fuck and Operation: Doomsday has no business being on that list over Chronic 2001.
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Seme__one
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:26:25 AM I'm not hatin' just statin'
my opinion
by the time this dropped the first wave of Wu was getting heavy play already, another one wasn't really needed so this for me didn't get heavy rotation, and amongst me and people I knew, it was good but didnt blow us away....plenty of other great records this year so this I guess got overlooked
still to this day I haven't played it much
so I guess I am a hater
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Seme__one
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:58:49 AM
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Nassau William Senior
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:48:27 AM Listened to this last night...this has aged VERY WELL.
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Nassau William Senior
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:56:39 AM Did any official vinyl copy ever come with Marvel?
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88
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we getting another podcast anytime soon? so much has happened in the past little while, worth discussing. the board's see saw state of existence, the ka album, dj rolo's thread, etc.
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Clockworx (Admin)
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:42:09 PM I gotta touch base with ETW but maybe this weekend if he's available.
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88
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:50:51 PM i have a recommendation for something you guys could do on the podcast that would either be the most awkward thing in the whole world or the most fun and awesome thing:
we get ughhers to submit a verse on some topic that someone can decide on. all the verses have to be about that topic. and there will be some deadline in some thread to submit. you two will both pick a fav verse each from the bunch. and on the podcast, you each have to spit the verse you chose.
feel free to not go along with this idea, but i think it could be great...
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the weatherman (Admin)
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:41:35 PM Listened to this last night...this has aged VERY WELL.
this
it's probably aged even better than liquid swords or ob4cl.
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Nickel Weed Sax
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:46:34 PM I forgot how beastly Black Jesus was...after the intro. U-God murders that shit.
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aeokq
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:27:47 PM I didn't vote but Ironman would've been my choice followed by Hell on Earth, just like it is listed. I would've placed Wrath of the Math higher but that top 10 looks good.
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88
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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:30:52 PM surprised octagon didn't land higher. iiwii.
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ci_fus
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:04:15 AM "Those early 90's albums sound dated as fuck and Operation: Doomsday has no business being on that list over Chronic 2001."
That's what im Saying!!!!
POS doom album <<<<<<< Crhonic 2001, and it isn't even close.
Men are bitching in here about GFK winning, Jay being in top five and they didn't even vote for chronic in their top 5 for that year
Bunch of sad white boys critiquing classic NYC albums in 96 safely tucked in their beds each night listening to Octagon somewhere in Nebraska or Nova Scotia ...with the mentality of " this is real hip hop" Sigh...
Clown movements.
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Nassau William Senior
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:07:40 AM lol ci_fus
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No Masks
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:03:44 PM ci fus the generic toronto guy who thinks he cool cause he listens to dre lol dork ass geek with the most shallow taste in rap on here
crying about snoop and dre and ghost like a little mainstream fuck boy
a bunch of better albums from '96 so take that and suck it
and nws is well known to have bad taste
ci fus you have exposed to us so many times how basic and weak your taste in rap is and also how emotional you get when someone deviates from the norm
yo get triggered like a snowflake and enraged and ramble on about how the popular weaker album should have won cause millions like it! lol
fuckin joke!
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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:09:15 PM where doc octagon was ahead of its time ironman sounded like fuck ass 96 yet number 1 then number 10. jay shoulda won but yall dumb
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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:11:28 PM and i lived outside philly for 23 yrs and now in atlanta. im far from a "safe white boy" reasonable doubt, hell on earth and doc octagon are the only albums period from this yr that could come out today and sound fresh. rza whole sound is dated as fuck.
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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:15:30 PM and u can take popularity and stick it in ur dick hole. chronic 2001 was popular. op doomsday was iconic. people are still rapping over those beats. the last time someone rapped on a chronic 2001 beat was wen fm radio was still good. gimme a break.
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No Masks
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:15:39 PM and i wasnt gonna say anything in this thread
wouldnt assume people from different places are "safely tucked in" ci_pus cause that just makes you look insecure
weakest wu album yet at that point!
a few weak beats and tracks and over rated
but the trendy wu cult is gonna suck ghost no doubt!
weak ass album cover too with that tacky hilfger shit
ci pus you talk this bullshit about how prefering the popular shit dosnt mean that you dont know about all the underground shit but you have never walked the walk or shown you know shit
just a poser im betting who has basic knowledge of rap so he over rates the popular shit with his conformist ass
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88
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:16:25 PM lol, i haven't been following these threads, but no mask and gino get mighty worked up about the end results. sheesh. chill out.
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No Masks
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:17:58 PM ^agree gino
dre was boring on chronic and that doom is way more creative and ill with the beats
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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:18:54 PM eminem is the only guy on chronic 2001 thats still relevant. doom popular as ever.
posted Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:27:16 AM 
