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SC1989

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:45:20 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for SC1989
Anyone no not even Tippi....

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Kupiaj

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:37:58 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Kupiaj
Beautiful album.

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:06:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
there was already a thread on the other forums about this album and i never thought to make one for the digital release since it's been out on vinyl since early july.

best armand hammer record so far though, and one of my favorite albums of 2018.

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:22:43 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for cEe-CuT
dope album, some of the beats are so ill, and billy woods and elucid always deliver ... hot aoty contender!

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:57:02 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
agree cee-cut, the production on here is insane. i've never heard a beat like the one on if he holla, which i believe was august fanon.

also i don't care what anyone says elucid and billy woods should be recognized as one of the best duos ever in hip hop. elucid and woods compliment each other really well and when they come together for an armand hammer record they somehow always manage to create something that sounds different from either artist's solo work.

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cEe-CuT

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:13:23 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for cEe-CuT
they always remind me of 21st century version of organized konfusion ... the way they approach the topics, their cutting-edge phrasing ... and I always liked their producer cast since day one...

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Kupiaj

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:14:11 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Kupiaj
Fanon is correct, Tippi.

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tippi dink

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:17:21 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
yeah that's a good comparison, maybe can ox too

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ken bone

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 11:30:23 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for ken bone
It's solid, not touching Race Music.

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 12:36:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for No Masks
mega dope

aoty contender easily

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hendo

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:55:29 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for hendo
Still waiting for my vinyl copy.
Anyone received their copy yet?

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tippi dink

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posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018 7:13:39 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
when did you order it? i've had it since mid july

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hendo

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:27:40 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for hendo
Ordered it on June 1st.
Composing an email to backwoodz studioz now...

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cEe-CuT

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:05:56 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for cEe-CuT
...usually the backwoodz guys are very reliable, they shipped my order immediately and also provided a tracking number

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:39:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for eseph84   Click Here to Email eseph84
yeah email them hendo, they usually respond rather quickly too

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:48:11 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
i've never had an issue ordering from backwoodz either, i wonder what went wrong there.

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:16:39 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
im hopefully gonna peep this the next 2 days.

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technosapien36

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:10:04 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for technosapien36
AoTY. Fucking amazing album! I play this shit everyday.

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hendo

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:32:28 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for hendo
backwoodz to the rescue!
Quick response and great customer service.
Should have my hands on this vinyl gem soon...

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:15:40 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
This is why I still come here. I never hear shit like this anywhere except here.

Usually I donít fuck with hip hop this subterrainian but this is the definition of underground.

Love it.

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:22:48 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
^ definitely check out billy woods and elucid's solo work, and their other 4 project as armand hammer if you haven't already, both have impressive discographies imo

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:40:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
Whoís the one guy thatís super nice? One dude stands out to me.

Billy Woods or Elucid?

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:42:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
Not the one that kinda sounds like Aesop Rock. The one with the deeper voice.

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:52:04 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
i think they're both equally dope but you're probably talking about billy woods, elucid does kind of have a similar dense/abstract style similar to aesop so i get that comparison











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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:11:02 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
Yeah theyíre both dope no doubt.

Lyrics are off the wall and you donít have to be a fuckin scientist to get it.

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:28:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
Iím on my third spin already. usually I donít do that unless itís some other shit.

Thereís so many dope songs.

When the beat drops on Hunter is my favorite part right now.

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:40:10 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
What really does it for me is that the beats keep changing and surprising you and these guys just do ridiculous no look passes with the mic all over the place.

Plus itís sounds like an album my 15 year old self would travel into the future for and give my 30 year old self a copy of.
Im high as fuck.

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:55:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
it's a really intense and dynamic record for sure, and i agree that the beat switches on here are something else, they add a lot to the album but none of them feel jarring. just when you get tired of one beat, you're hit with another one. really well paced. love the second part of alternate side parking, and the way skech 185 comes in on if he holla. it almost sounds like there's an early 2000s metalcore song buried far in the background, it really caught me off guard at first but it just works. i said this before in this thread, but elucid and billy woods are one of the best duos of all time to me, they compliment each other perfectly. if people don't think of them that way now, i think they will in 5-10 years.

my favorites would be

rehearse with ornette
dettol
no days off
hunter
if he holla
vx
vindaloo
ecomog
bob barker

no tracks i'd say are weak by any means though

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:06:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
You donít work you donít eat

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:13:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for technosapien36
Def one if the illest duos in hip hop ever, and the best duo doing it right now by far. These guys are top-tier MCs, IMO, and have never put out a bad project, both solo and as Armand Hammer. They keep getting better.

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:14:36 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
So lemme ask a question tippi dink since Iím in a good mood.

How do you give an album like this the attention it deserves when you listen to 25 albums a month?

Like I know Iím not playin shit but this for at least a month.

When I read some of your posts that are like reviews I always think ďhe ainít really listen to THIS one enough to even speak on itĒ cuz youíre on to the next one the next minute.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:22:42 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
man i don't know how many time we have to go over this lol. i'm not "on to the next one", i just bring other albums into the rotation while continuing to listen to this one. this album, avantdale bowling club, and the ka record haven't left my rotation since they dropped, and i've still checked out new releases outside of that. i might not listen to every single album that comes out two dozen times in a row, but there's probably a reason for that. if i like an album a lot i play the shit out of it, same as you.

is listening to this album almost every single day since it dropped in july not enough? how many listens do i need before i'm qualified to have an opinion on an album? 100? 150?

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:29:56 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
One month. However many spins that equals to you

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:33:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
All I been listening to is Danny Brownís last album, Wikiís last album and Tical.

Iíve been waiting for an album I can really get into.

Here it is.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:35:42 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
man, you realize no music critic listens to an album that many times before they publish their review right? now that's professionals, so what about a music fan who is just excited to talk about something they enjoy. what's wrong with having first impressions anyway? it's not like that early opinion is set in stone and unable to ever be changed. i'm not listening to an album one time and coming into threads trying to pass my opinion off like it's some objective truth, so what's the harm? you might have your own set of standards that you adhere to, but that's not going to be the same for everyone.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:39:15 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
this is definitely an album that warrants repeat listens though, summer has been good this year - busdriver, nostrum grocers, avantdale bowling club, armand hammer, and ka all dropped dense, layered albums that have a ton of replay value for me. i wasn't really happy with my top 5 for the year until a few weeks ago.

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:47:01 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
My ear for music is on par with the best hip hop critics of all time.

I guess my point when itís all said an done is..... I feel like youíre just a spectator. For some reason itís like youíre a fan who got into rap a couple years ago and dug a hole as deep as he could to find the underground.

I know you know the classics. I just feel like you ainít from that cloth. You a new jack. No offense.

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:50:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for jamescape
I haven't listened to it yet, but it seems like its interesting soundtracks.

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:55:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
Who did the beats?

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:58:55 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
well that's really judgemental and assumptious of you now isn't it? seems like you made up your mind already, so what was the point of asking in the first place? i listen to everything, no bias towards mainstream or underground, i just seek out music that resonates with me and try to share it with other people who might also appreciate it. that's my goal. of course i
"dug a hole" into the underground, because there's good music to be found there. why are you acting like it's a bad thing to keep your ear open and have an open mind? i honestly don't care if someone on the internet views me as a new jack or whatever, music is a personal thing for me and always has been.

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:01:07 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
elucid, kenny segal, august fanon, small pro, messiah musik, willie green, ohbliv.. all producers they've worked with before pretty much

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:11:31 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
I never heard of one of those producers ever.

Maybe Iím the new jack now.

Wow.

This is headphone music that can actually bang through speakers.

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tippi dink

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:25:12 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
willie green is basically the in-house producer for backwoodz, if you want to check out his work i suggest starting with the doc savage record

kenny segal is a producer from LA who has done stuff with busdriver, milo, mike eagle, and a bunch of other project blowed affiliates

small pro is from philly, 1/2 of career crooks along with zilla rocca and is affiliated with the wrecking crew. he did an album with guilty simpson a few years back.

not sure where august fanon is from but he just started popping up a couple years ago, at least on my radar. one of my favorite newer producers. he works with al.divino, mach-hommy, fahim, chis crack, and all those guys, he did a few tracks on the last armand hammer record too.

can't really say much about messiah musik, other than he's worked with billy woods many times in the past

ohbliv is from richmond, virginia and has put out dozens and dozens of beat tapes over the years. this came out not too long ago though and kind of serves as a "greatest hits" of his catalogue


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Guess I'm the only one not feeling this. I gave it a couple spins but the beats are too disjointed. Very harsh for the most part. There are a few interesting ones though. I like the sample on No Days Off and Black Garlic knocks hard as fuck. The first beat on Alternate Side Parking is cool.

The rapping is indeed abstract and I can't really follow the dudes' lyrics. I pretty much felt the same about Rome.

On another note damn that dude Elucid raps different from how he did earlier in his career. I first heard him on this track (which is really dope). His style has completely changed.



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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:05:45 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
aeokq he still raps like that, just not all the time

some more recent elucid tracks you might enjoy more:













^ a bit older but this is still a favorite of mine

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:08:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
also worth noting that track you linked is basically a lessondary joint so elucid probably approaches those differently



that's from 2016

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:01:39 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
im listening now....

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:07:09 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
curious to hear what you think of it. i'd assume you wouldn't like it since i remember you not fucking with rome that much, but it's hard to tell since you included half measures on that list of overlooked albums from the early 2010s you posted in another thread.

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:10:52 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
im not gonna shit on it either way but im on track 5 and i only liked 1 song so far.

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:11:58 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
which one? a lot of my favorites are towards the middle - backend of the album

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if this makes sense thers usually ignorant rap and then smart guy rap. i like something ignorantly slick. like come with the usual violence or sex lyrics but in a clever funny way. i cant go full dummy and i dont think i can go full this type of stuff. i made it to track 7 and skimmed the rest and it went the way i thought. sorry bub.

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posted Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:25:16 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
that's cool man, i get it. thanks for being honest and respectful.

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