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no masks

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 8:33:12 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
serato and the rest

sounds fake, takes less skill, too easy to use, dosnt sound as good.

get a real DJ or dont bother! be a real DJ or keep it in your bedroom. that goes for albums and live sets. learn and use the real gear or fuck off!

its basically a subtle attack to weaken the art of Dj'ing and hip hop.

shit has spoiled many dope tracks for me.

Thoughts?

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 8:37:14 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
and premo and whatever other legends defend it are WRONG!

people whining how crates are too heavy and hard to transport! aaaaaah, poor babies! THAT is part of the culture of dj'ing and real records sound better dumb asses. lazy mother fuckers.

premo looks like he should be carrying crates A LOT more. lol

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selah

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 8:54:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for selah
It opens up the possibilities of what you can scratch. Like say the acapella to your own song that isnít on vinyl or. Aesop Rock did that on Kirby for example.

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GRMPA

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:09:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for GRMPA   Click Here to Email GRMPA
scratching is dope but also not scratching is dope too. I say that bc I donít bother to even try to learn how to have that kind of skill and coordination.

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:12:37 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
why'd you eat that leaf?

i've not no problem with the fake scratching though as long as it's used sparingly, at least on the record itself.

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no masks

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:13:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
^i know selah but i still dont like it or support it. maybe for special moments when you really need to cut up something that you cant get on vinyl but then again maybe not. haha

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GRMPA

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:24:45 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for GRMPA   Click Here to Email GRMPA
To anyone lurking and uninformed abt what is going on here we have a thread made by a German and championed by a rural Canadian abt what they are determining is and is not acceptable in hip hop culture.

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:28:47 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
^whos german or rural? lol

its my opinion and for each their own but i dont think its good for rap.

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GRMPA

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:37:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for GRMPA   Click Here to Email GRMPA
oh lmao I literally thought that phatbeats made this thread. And that youíre from rural Canada. Lmao I am so fake news right now.

But as far as your opinion is concerned. My opinion is that your opinion is actually that you believe the opposite is true and that you are lying here. Itís my opinion so it canít be wrong.

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dR.prOf

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:51:24 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dR.prOf   Click Here to Email dR.prOf
Real DJ make the rules, not fans or bystanders (or compilation djs). Post a mix you did that's as pure as any of Premier's Crooklyn Cuts series and i'll take your opinion seriously. Til then i'll take Premier's word that serato is dope. It's about your skills not the equipment, smh

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Leo Duh

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 10:06:15 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Leo Duh
Real scratching sounds best

Sumtimes serato sounds good too but its a dice roll

Mixing in serato is way easier but real vinyl is just way cooler

Just like beatmaking

Software is quicker and more convenient but classic hardware is way more fun to use

If its ur job - use software

Hobby - hardware (more fun)

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frailemotionalwhitedevil

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 10:06:36 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for frailemotionalwhitedevil
i prefer a dj spinning plates
but whatever


that yo' quick draw fails the test, and mine was flawless
My DJ gave the scratch, yours was clawless

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 11:25:53 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
i hear you leo

and prof, i wasnt saying dudes arnt skilled or that doing it for fun is a bad thing. as far as preem, theres other legends that dont like it so... i really just see it is a watering down of the artform- making it easier, cheaper to buy(over saturation), dosnt sound as good, dosnt take as much dedication,skill etc.

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Litney spears

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 11:44:29 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney spears
Lol at thinking DJs these these spin on vinyl in clubs , even known DJs use serato , another dumb ass thread

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:06:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
i have a dumb question. how can u tell its fake?

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Leo Duh

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:12:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Leo Duh
If its done well and with the right sample u cant

But alot of times u can

I can tell

Its hard to explain but its like a more smeared sound but also more digital

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:14:31 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for GPT Godfather
What an ignorant post. The tools don't matter if the person using them knows what's up. There are so many talented artists that can perform with whatever is put in front of them to very high levels. Wax, serato, mpc, sp404 etc...

Of course vinyl alone is dope. But so is other shit...dumb post.

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 1:20:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
^your post is the ignorant one actually cause fake scratching is is wack and all that digital Dj is weak.watering down of the artform- making it easier, cheaper to buy(over saturation), dosnt sound as good, dosnt take as much dedication,skill etc. Its not the real deal and it sounds terrible. not like people doing it dont have talent or cant do dope blends and live sets but still not the real deal and dosnt sound as good. but when it comes to scratching it should be totally avoided unless its just for fun or whatever.

"hey. lets start using this inferior Dj gear" LOL

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NoHeadlights

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 1:43:24 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for NoHeadlights
Says the guy who has to wait for his wife to go to work before he can listen to rap music

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 1:50:05 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
if you had 3 kids, a house and a wife would you play hard rap with cussing in front of them all and in the morning? update:im not a stay at home poppa anymore so sorry, you gotta stop using your go to line.

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Litney spears

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 2:05:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney spears
My niece and nephew listen to Oakland hood music , you're raising a bunch of pussy ass kids cuz you are a pussy

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 2:13:25 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
^the degeneration of society in progress. your cool!

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Litney spears

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 2:15:51 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney spears
Degeneration? You still dont know the difference between your and you're you dicklexic faggot

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no masks

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 2:24:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
^see a shrink asap dick wipe. i slip up here and there and dont take all that grammar to seriously like your robot brain does. now get back to dumpster diving shit nuts!

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Leo Duh

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 2:41:10 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Leo Duh
Observe sounds like he would suck as a parent

I barely play rap around my son unless its just the radio versions

He raps slong to Drake Gods Plan tho

We mostly listen to Rocky soundtracks

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anti-stunna

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:18:39 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for anti-stunna
lol at " Oakland hood music" stfu Shitney Queers you 40 year old broke degenerate scum.

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88

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:26:20 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
this thread is equivalent to WJ and i driving a car up a hill, passing no mask, whose pedalling a bike up the hill, and he yells at us, "you phonies! cars don't take any skill at all!" and then he falls over and faints from exhaustion and we drive away.

b-b-b-b-but vinyl takes more dedication. whatever, man. i'll take a talented dj on serato over some untalented hack whose been failing for years on vinyl. as others in this thread have said, it's the talent of the person, not the tools they use.

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Seme__one

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:26:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Seme__one
Please post some examples of fake and real scratching itt

Thanks in advance

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88

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:30:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
no mask about to stop posting on ughh and start sending us hip hop posts via morse code, in order to keep it real and dedicated.

computers are for lazy bums. bill gates is WRONG!

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no masks

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:36:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
i feel bad for some of you.

yo, i prefer this fake sounding synth guitar over an actual guitar! im down!

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:37:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Please post some examples of fake and real scratching itt

i second this motion

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88

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:38:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88

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PassionateBoutTypeBeats

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:41:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for PassionateBoutTypeBeats
Mm hmm

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Drug Smokes

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 4:43:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Drug Smokes
Fake scratching only sounds bad on your knock off beats headphones

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wigga prerequisite

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 5:43:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wigga prerequisite
agreed only cuts on vinyl are legit

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I think for someone who is an all around musician with an in home studio serato and traktor are fine if your just wanting to add some scratches on a track here or there

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:27:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Drug Smokes
Wanna know whats worse then "fake scratching"? "Fake beats" and "fake rhymes"

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:54:31 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
^yup.

ollie knows.

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 8:13:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dR.prOf   Click Here to Email dR.prOf
No mask dumbing the fuck out. What is this poison that gets into hip-hop heads where they think they can start making rules? Fahim fans, vinyl purists, it's just different flavors of the same kool aid...

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wigga prerequisite

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 8:40:55 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wigga prerequisite
^^vinyl is the best for cuts its not that difficult to comprehend u ape


giphy-2

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 8:49:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Vinyl sounds better and is more authentic but if it sounds good im not going to get all butthurt cause it's "fake scratching" and not the real thing. A lot of the scratching done nowadays is done through serato and other shit like that. Doesnt make the music sound less credible or watered down to me as a result.

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LhiteWines

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:26:39 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for LhiteWines
nomask, out of curiosity what are the tracks that it has spoiled for you?

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:39:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
we cuttin it up authentically and people mad cause we called out the way lesser shit! its like being a boxer and you suddenly decide one day ; "hey, i've decided to use lesser but lighter gloves that hit less hard and feel less good on my hands.

the whole trick of the thread is that most legends agree its not that good. most fans that know their shit say that too. of course they do! its not a debate. thats the trick! nice comments tho bro's

dosnt mean digital DJ controllers arnt good for throwing in fire pits.

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Lol at slip up

No motherfucker you don't know basic grammar

You don't know the difference between their and there, seen u make the most common mistakes countless times, instead of making rules for music pick up a writing 101 class at a community college dork, Lol at Oakland hood music and karim trying to sound kewl in that post

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posted Thursday, November 08, 2018 10:35:49 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no masks
^bottom of the barrel, crab ass clone cant beat me on rap topics, so he resorts to correcting petty grammatical disturbance's. sad man.

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posted Friday, November 09, 2018 1:43:02 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for cEe-CuT
Please post some examples of fake and real scratching itt

makes me wonder if you're even able to discern the difference since you never posted any examples to document your statement...

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LhiteWines

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posted Friday, November 09, 2018 2:12:10 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for LhiteWines
Yep, I wanted examples of the 'many dope tracks' that have been spoiled by 'fake scratching' but no masks didn't play ball.

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wigga prerequisite

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posted Friday, November 09, 2018 2:18:17 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for wigga prerequisite


cut it out trying to make meaningless comparisons, cuts are done with vinyl period or they are not cuts or u can just use sound effects from a computer or beatbox it... just give it up ur wrong

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dR.prOf

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posted Friday, November 09, 2018 2:35:31 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dR.prOf   Click Here to Email dR.prOf
"ur wrong"

Yeah really profound point there, dipshit


If this is such a pressing problem, why doesnt it EVER come up in album discussion threads or otherwise??
Where are all these scratched hooks ruining songs?
Where are all these serato mixes that are oversaturating the genre?

I can think of tons of examples of godly serato mixes and great djs who use serato to scratch hooks...but again it NEVER comes up because the equipment used is besides the point...all anybody ever cares about off the jump is how good the music sounds. Period.

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wigga prerequisite

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posted Friday, November 09, 2018 3:29:10 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for wigga prerequisite
^^ u admit u have zero knowledge of hip hop history yet wanna speak on hip hop history. sorry doesnt work that way stalker

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Phatbeets

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uhhh serato or traktor is dope as fuck. You scratch using a time code vinyl that contains a sinusoidal signal which gets replaced by the mp3 that you put on it using some software and a converting device.
In terms of scratching there is absolutely no difference to scratching on a real vinyl. Every famous turntablist has acknowledged or admitted that by now.
Also like others say, you either have the skillz or you donít. The equipment doesnít matter, it often requires even more skillz e.g. you see those turntablist scratching on small portable device that they carry like a guitar. Try this out bro and tell me how easy or fake that is.

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