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posted Friday, June 23, 2017 9:25:30 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Not on Soundcloud yet but hopefully will be this weekend...

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Dump Gawd (prod. by THA GOD FAHIM) 01:59
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The Seven Stars (prod. by Camoflauge Monk) 03:04
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Dragnet (prod. by Eyedee) 03:10
4.
Dover Sole (prod. by Bronze Nazareth) 02:17
5.
Chocolate Clouds (prod. by THA GOD FAHIM) 04:16
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Sapphire (prod. by Lill Wiardon) 01:32
7.
Max Well feat. Mach-Hommy (prod. by Foisey) 02:09
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Apple Pie (prod. by THA GOD FAHIM) 03:39

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i expect new fahim at least monthly now. probably dope.

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posted Saturday, June 24, 2017 11:41:58 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for razuu
Sounds pretty solid on the first pass through. Beat selections from other producers fit well, Mach does his thing on his verse. Fahims beats are unique on this one but I dig them.

Damn these guys are killing 2017. They are going to have so many albums on my end of the year top 10 for sure.

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posted Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:33:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Dope Hogan III
So i know this is called "episode 5" but its really part 4 in the series.

Or is tha god fuckin with us

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posted Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:19:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Got it this afternoon, and gave it a few listens.

Just like the first dump gawd, this one ends with a nice soulful sample.

As usual, the track with Mach - hommy, max well, is a highlight. Already working on a comp of the best of all the fahim/mach collabo tracks.

The first track and a couple in the middle were worthwhile. Dragnet and another track, but can't remember the title off the top of my head.

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Dragnet and dover sole are my top joints on this along with sapphire interlude. The sample and drums on sapphire are grimy as hell. A couple unerwhelming tracks and a couple other average ones. Max well is cool. Different styles.

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posted Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:31:01 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dr.proF   Click Here to Email dr.proF
Another fine selection of beats. Loving the smoothness of "Apple Pie" and the more gutter "Dragnet". Fahim sounds kinda drunk and hilarious at times here. I was not prepared for that Dump Gawd chorus on track 1

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posted Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:10:42 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Tracks four and five are the only ones I deleted. The rest is heat, imo.

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posted Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:07:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Here's the tape for those that haven't heard it yet...



Chocolate Clouds the only auto skip on here. Rest ranges from straight flames (Dragnet, Dump Gawd) to smooth shit (Seven Stars, Max Well, Apple Pie).

There's a Dump Gawd: al.divino edition dropping soon.

By years end im going to try to compile a Best of 2017 Fahim compilation. Going to probably be two discs worth at this rate.

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 10:26:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
best tracks:



The Seven Stars
Sapphire

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 11:30:40 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for lex718
Al.Divino's a beast. I look forward to that.. I'm assuming this Ep. 5 joint is on his bandcamp.. I'll look now.

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 11:31:55 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for lex718
This ain't the free one he announced? The only album he announced a date for and ended up dropping it late.

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Apple pie is really hitting the spot on that summer vibe

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 6:39:20 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
so far, based on the fahim projects i've checked out, this is my incomplete mach and fahim compilation:

bah humug (ft. kungg fuu)
bell ringer
n*ggas knxw
max well
the sheikh pull up u shake the masjid
krug flutes
danbury shakes
concshell
saga city (ft. your old droog)

i wish i could edit that draymond green voice impersonator on the last verse of bah humbug, but i don't think i can.

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 7:15:36 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
hopefully were done "dumping" after this shit. clock has relayed my thoughts on this dude. and mach is awful. blasphemy to compare him to kool keith. keith has done every style in the book on every style beat. please

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 7:33:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Saying Mach is awful and saying he has no flow = 😂;🤣;😆;😐;😑;🙄;😏;😣;😥;😮;😯;😛;😝;🤤;😒;😓;😔;😕;😲;☹;🙁;😖;😞;😟;😢;😭;😦;😧;😨;😩;😵;😡;😠;

The point is the Keith has a flow that sounds like he's talking. That's not a bad thing. It's just what are you basing that no flow off of then?

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 7:35:24 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
^^^uve spent hundreds on these guys music. cmon bub. big pun could come back to life and spit like 98 and im not payin more than 30 bucks. these guys are the epitome of free release and NONE of it is, while hus and rozewood who are hundred times better drop everything for free.

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You're being entitled if you think their releases should be free. A rapper should be able to assign value to his art. It's like selling a pair of designer kicks for $2K when you could just buy a pair for $10. Why should rap be any different?

And Mach >>> everyone on #TheWinners and GxFR put together tbh

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 7:45:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
u welcomed me back and that was sweet, thats the only reason im not gonna go in on u loewi. art is subjective, as in if it can even be considered. lol give me the instrumentals

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 9:45:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Yo 88 you should peep Dollar Menu 1 and 2. They're basically entire tapes filled with Mach and Fahim collabs.

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 10:23:41 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Yeah, they were next on my list.

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Mach and Keith are the same, Gino

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posted Monday, June 26, 2017 11:45:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Check out Mach's edition of Dump Gawd after the Dollar Menu EP's as well

And I don't think Mach and Keith are the same. I was just using Keith as an extreme example

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posted Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:32:26 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for vinnny blanc
Etw is really going make me tell him to fuck off for the trifecta, before I welcome him back lol

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posted Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:34:07 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for vinnny blanc
I missed that n*gga though(pro homo)🌝;

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^^its not all so cut and dry.some generalizing going on above.

some of mach and fahims stuff should be cheap and even free based on its quality but some is high quality like mach's HBO (for the most part), dollar menu 1, fahims "shogunn 2", tragedy of shogunn and dump gawd 1.

my guess is fahim is releasing most of what he records which is cool to me cause were getting lots of gems and its minimal effort to delete the filler from certain projects.

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posted Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:44:29 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Well, Dollar Menu was initially only a $1 (or $1.87 or whatever) but it has since increased in value because there's a demand for it. From the artist's perspective, no point in giving it away for free now

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^yeah man.and to clarify,i wasnt saying any should be free necessarily and that mach's HBO (for the most part), dollar menu 1, fahims "shogunn 2", tragedy of shogunn and dump gawd 1 are high quality and should be sold. so are a bunch of their other releases.

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posted Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:20:57 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Check out Mach's edition of Dump Gawd after the Dollar Menu EP's as well

already did. it's alright. concshell and the the first alchemist track were the two main highlights for me. deleted about half the tracks after listening a couple times.

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posted Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:25:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
fahim's default flow works so much better over the apple pie beat than it did over ohhh babe. glad he got it right this time, and didn't go and waste another great soul beat by using the wrong flow on it.

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wat a weenie bag discussion. its rap, shit is released every 5 mins, not songs but full projects. give ur shit away for free, even a few of em, im not greedy. but im not asking cuz i need to have it, im asking cuz it sounds like it should be free. fahim is the black version of mac miller. cuz it doesnt matter wat wild shit he says or mac says, they still sound 13 pre-nutdrop. how many great beats could be handed away to like 150 other artists who would destroy them and we get this light work immature ass subject matter, flow and voice.

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^gino back on his bullshit yo!! all good.

fahims dope. not only great at picking unused dope samples but is an above average producer with a good ear. as an emcee he's a bit above average overall but way above when it comes to putting out mass amounts of solid verses.he changes his style up sometimes too,sings on a few hooks,different flows on hooks etc. he has soul too.

not at all comparable to wack miller gino! haha and does miller produce tons of dope beats and put out 6 quality projects in 1 year?

i was very critical in the beginning and wasnt digging him like lpac and clock were last year but i gave him a real chance and realized hes a great addition to raw rap.

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posted Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:55:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
at gino

what fahim projects have you even heard in full?

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the unused sample thing is irrelevant cuz thers literally as many albums out ther as people on this earth, he should use shit that hasnt been touched. and his lyrics hold no weight like a bitch with an eating disorder. lol at my bullshit. u mean unbiased bullshit then ok. dude sounds young and not in a good way.

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posted Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:01:19 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
mac miller produced the delusional thomas album which was a bite off quasimoto and he produced it and it literally sounds like eminem using the sparkmaster tape voice over fucking madlib beats. fahim cant do that

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and if ur gonna go drumless and make loop based beats thers no reason to re-use samples. thats why i think knxwledge is overrated.

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^ i dont like knowledge much. your downplaying the un used samples though.he uses many that havent been used before and thats important and dope and is hard to do- takes time,knowledge and intellect to use almost no previously used music samples. who knows if he has help,is really a digger etc but he's picking really ill music samples and putting hard breaks over them.not genius level or ground breaking but real raw dope rap and his prolific-ness/work ethic is next level.

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high pitched voice dosnt always sound young. his references and content reveal his knowledge. he says more than most rappers.

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already did. it's alright. concshell and the the first alchemist track were the two main highlights for me. deleted about half the tracks after listening a couple times.

Don't make me go full emoji on you like I did with Gino!

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whosampledit app will tell u in 2 seconds by artist wats been touched. its not hard. i dont kno how to make beats but i got an ear and i kno wen i hear a jazz flute by hubert laws if it hasnt been touched or a jazz guitar loop that could be used by wes montgomery. trust me, thers fairly reasonable records and tons at that, that havent been touched.

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^yup,theres lots left to sample but that dosnt take away from the fact fahim is great at finding and using mostly unused shit.its a big deal.

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posted Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:39:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
im saying its not. cuz u got the world at ur finger tips now (a cellphone) im not a producer and i could make 4 albums of unused shit and so could u ya dope ya.

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The obscure sample thing is just a novelty to me. I know for producers it's all about digging and trying to find the most obscure, unused sample. As a listener, i just care about if it sounds dope or not.

Dump Gawd Da Da Da Da Dump Gawg Got The Mack and The Pump Gawd.

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^no. dosnt matter.you get big points for using unused shit in a ill way.and he keeps the drums raw as shit. not just the unused factor either- he has a crazy ear and picks some really hard shit that wouldnt pop out at just anyone.hes really good at. he's not just sampling jazz or records.sampling weird genres and old movies etc.gotta respect it.

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in my absence ive been on whosampled it and its a mixed bag of obscure shit and cheese bag dollar records that have been hit. the obscure thing also doesnt matter to me. ive heard alot of producers say these words exactly, that they've caught ther best samples for a dollar or under 5 bucks. if it sounds good it can be some lame ass country record that was hit and id love it regardless if its a rare groove or not. for the most part shit like spyro gyra is corny as fuck but they make great sample candy.

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^100% . buy saying unused i wasnt meaning pretentious rare.seen the dollar bin thing work many times.kids records,random weird shit.producers just gotta bring those new sounds!

not saying fahims a technical genius. hes a one trick pony producer except for the fact he samples different styles but hes bringing heat!and lots of it.

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yea i get it. u just dont gotta hit bluenote or fuckin black jazz or indian navagation label fuckin 40-300 dollar jazz records to make heat. u can hit ecm, kudu and cti that range from 3-30 bucks and u can make it happen.

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posted Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:24:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Don't make me go full emoji on you like I did with Gino!

*shrugs

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the thing about fahim and mach to me is that they're good enough at writing a rap verse, but not very good at writing actual songs.

i just listened to the 7 tracks from dark medina 2 that i like, and they were all straight bars. no catchy hooks. basically no hooks at all. no structure. these aren't songs. they're just beats with rap verses on top. there's a difference, and it's a really important one. i think this is why, for example, tippi dink argues that, once you've heard a couple fahim tracks, you've heard all of fahim's music.

now, just laying down verses over a beat can work on a few tracks, and you can get away with it, if it's over a dope beat, but it'll be a short career, if these guys don't improve their songwriting abilities, particularly their ability to write hooks. it'd be like if every track on liquid swords was written like the title track on that album. that might sound dope in your head, but it wouldn't be as good of an album as it currently is. you need actual songs, like gza's duel of the iron mic, gold, etc. meth's tical album is remembered for tracks like bring the pain and all i need, not meth vs. chef. but fahim and mach are just giving us meth vs. chef tracks, currently. they're doing it over some very dope beats, but that's a short term appeal. these tracks won't last, unless they're mixed in with real songs.

the good thing is that fahim is getting better at it. on the last few projects, he's been trying to add some more structure to the vocals of his tracks. examples would be sabat, ohhh babe (even if i think it was a failed attempt), and apple pie. i like sabat and bell ringer both, but i don't remember a single line from bell ringer, whereas i distinctly remember sabat's hook. if fahim wants to have a longer career, and get a bigger fanbase, he needs to keep moving in this direction. in the direction of writing actual songs, as opposed to just laying down verses. it's the difference between inspectah deck/u-god and gza/ghostface/raekwon/rza. it's a tried and true formula.

mf doom and jay electronica might be able to break that formula, but they are exceptionally good rappers, who are in complete control of their abilities as rappers. fahim and mach, on the other hand, are still young, talented emcees. in art, you must master the rules, before you can break them. these guys got a long way to go, in terms of learning the songwriting formulas.

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^i can't stand songs based around a hook, and that old 16-hook-16-hook is lame af to me and it's fine to break that mold IMO, i like what they're doing and hope they don't change a thing...but what do i know

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so you can't stand something like 95% of all rap music? not trying to sound like a dick here. that's just what your comment seems to equate to.

you prefer, for example, meth vs chef over bring the pain and all i need?

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posted Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:27:11 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
it's fine to break that mold IMO

i think so too, as i said above, but i think there's a big difference between breaking norms that you've already mastered, and avoiding norms that show your weaknesses. i would say fahim and mach avoiding the typical 16/hook/16/hook/16 structure is definitely in the latter.

and i'm not against an artist being aware of their own limitations, and living in that space. i actually applaud some artists for being that self-aware. what i am saying, though, is that, if these guys want to add some popularity and longevity to their careers, i think they'll need to challenge themselves and stop avoiding the popular/tried-and-true song structures of their genre. those structures are universally popular for numerous valid reasons.

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