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Clockworx (Admin)

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The album won in a landslide vote. By Thursday night Ace already had a healthy lead. It was just a matter of semantics to let the vote play out over the next few days. While not my favorite album of 2001 it was in my Top 5 and is one of my favorite story telling/concept albums of all time. We probably had the biggest voting turnout for the finals since we started doing this a couple months ago. Thanks to everyone that voted. The next year we're doing is 2009. The nomination thread will go up on Thursday.

Here's the Top 10 from the final round...

Masta Ace – Disposable Arts – 95
Cannibal Ox – The Cold Vein – 68
Cormega - The Realness – 66
Nas – Stillmatic – 53
Jay-Z – The Blueprint – 47
Dilated Peoples - Expansion Team – 38
J-Zone – Pimps Don't Pay Taxes – 36
Aesop Rock - Labor Days – 34
J-Live – The Best Part – 32
Necro - Gory Days – 31

Biggest surprise for me was how well Stillmatic placed. Not even in my Top 5 Nas albums.

Ill leave this pinned until Tuesday morning that way everybody that voted gets a 36 hour window to see what won before the thread fades onto the second page.

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Happy to see ace win it. Just glad jay z didnt win. Stillmatic is like the 27th best from 2001.

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posted Sunday, March 04, 2018 5:50:25 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Sp 90s
Cant be mad about that.

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I wish I could like this album as much as everyone else but I don't. Production falls flat a bit flat imo. There are a few nice tracks though. I give it props for originality.

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Nice to See Ace for the win. Great album. Really nice to see jay z crack top 5 too. That was a great album, second best IMO from him .

"Stillmatic is like the 27th best from 2001."

Really? Because a underground hip hop forum says otherwise. its TOP 5 bud.

aeokq - i kind of feel how you do about long hot summer. Those two albums combined would have been Epic.

What year is next Clock?



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posted Sunday, March 04, 2018 6:13:18 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
2009 is next. Nomination thread goes up Thursday.

This is a damn near perfect diss track...



From the beat to the lyrics to the flow.

If i remember correctly wasn't the High and Mighty beef a misunderstanding by Ace?

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stillmatic is not better than blueprint. this forum needs to lay off the drunk posting and drunk life if u think that list isnt some try to be different asshole bullshit.

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i ain't mad at that winner, def in my top 5...but Stillmatic? c'mon now...Blueprint even was a better album, but both them albums don't deserve top 10 IMO, but whatever

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Yea Stillmatic sticks out like a sore thumb on that list. I'm really not surprised at the other 9 even though i thought J-Live would be ranked a little higher.

Half the beats on Stillmatic are garbage. Give me Ether, Rewind, Destroy & Rebuild, and The Flyest and the rest of the album can go kick rocks. Yea that includes One Mic and You're da Man. Bring it on bros.

The Blueprint is great. The two big singles, Izzo and Girls, Girls, Girls, are the only two auto skip tracks on it for me. Everything else is good to great.

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i dont think so alfredo, you dont get to decide which one is better, is a matter of taste, and nas is waaay better mc than jay

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Nas might be a better emcee than Jay, not saying i think that but its debatable, but Blueprint takes a shit all over Stillmatic.

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only two songs i thought was even good on Stillmatic was "Stillmatic Intro" and "You're Da Man"....rest was crap.

but i agree, I woulda thought J-Live woulda made top 3 and Can Ox woulda took the top spot

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For selfish reasons im glad Cold Vein didn't win cause not a fan of it. Mega was my favorite album of the year. Thought it had an outside shot until i did the first vote count on Thursday night. Still glad it got recognized Top 3.

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"stillmatic is not better than blueprint. this forum needs to lay off the drunk posting and drunk life if u think that list isnt some try to be different asshole bullshit."

really, gino. you're going to be the one to say that? hahaha.

I'm probably more fond of Stillmatic than most here, but yeah there are probably albums that are better. The Blueprint is definitely better. But who gives a shit what album came in 4th, 5th, 6th place, it didnt win.

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11 through 15...

Smut Peddlers - Porn Again – 29
Self Scientific – The Self Science – 21
Chino XL - I Told You So – 20
Eyedea - First Born – 18
CunninLynguists – Will Rap For Food – 17

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Lol at ci_pus defending that shit stillmatic album and acting hard calling me bud. Fool just scratching the surface.

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2nd childhood is the beat track on Stillmatic surprised you didnt mention that track clock. Preem laced that beat.

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It was ok but forgettable to me. I know im probably in the minority with my thoughts on Stillmatic but how you bros view that album is how i view Gods Son minus that shitbag track I Can.

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Blueprint > Still matic , I picked it as 1st in here so don't get it confused.

But Stillmatic is bigger than just an album if you don't get that point im too tired to explain it. It deserves top 5 hands down.

Stillmatic intro
ether
got your self a gun
youre da man
One mic
2nd childhood
the flyest
What goes around

No way that's a weak lineup. need to ease up off that smoke if you think otherwise. Ill raise my glass to it.

No Mask, i got 4/5 albums that made top 5, you got how many? 1? Yea, good call - drink another coors light(alley cats wouldn't drink that piss water) you goof. If you think "bud" is playing hard, you're as soft as your top 5 list.

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I can deal with Ace on the top even though I didn't vote for him...He's a UGK.

Blue Print was way doper then Stillmatic...Thats for certain. Makes sense Stillmatic would place higher on an UGHH board though because half of ya'll are simple as fuck, love Nas though, so Here Here!

Aesop shoulda placed higher, probably the biggest disappointment for me.

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Love these posts though, peace to CW.

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Two words: WELL DESERVED!!!

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Can't be mad at DA. I still liked cold vein more though.

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clock work stfu you listen to eminem wtf do you know about nas

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but im not under the influence wen i post ern lol

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out of that top 15 for this year i can name 10 albums that are way doper than 10 of those. same problem as always on here: most just scrape the surface and vote for that weaker shit.

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i guess i'm in the minority here then cus to me Stillmatic was real weak...maybe 2 -3 good tracks (and the Intro was one of them)

Cold Vein and Disposable Arts are neck and neck for me, both for different reasons but i ain't mad at either winning. Cormegha's album was decent to me, nothing super special, i think it's kinda overrated, even back then and in retrospect, def not better than J-Live's album

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like clock pointed out, after thursday it seemed like this would be the winner without a doubt but i'm surprised at the point difference between the number 1 and number 2 albums. personally this isn't my favorite album from 2001 but it's probably 2001 and i get why it won, it's definitely more accessible and has broader appeal than cold vein, labor days, and some of these other albums that didn't even make the top 10. interesting that j-live's album placed as low on the list as it did though, i'd put that above the cormega album personally.

looking forward to the 2009 vote, i don't think that year will have such a clear winner

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LOL at everyone complaining about Stillmatic being in the top 5 of 2001. Y'all MFs too underground for your own good sometimes.

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personally this isn't my favorite album from 2001 but it's probably 2001 and i get why it won

i meant that disposable arts is probably top 5 lol, it's too early for this shit

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lex, what is "too underground"? i don't even understand that but the only reason it shoulnd't be even in the top 10 is because it wasn't even good, few of those songs i'd even say were kinda wack

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It means people hold very tightly to shit needing to sound a specific way to be dope. When I think of Stillmatic I think of songs like "Rewind", "One Mic", "Second Childhood" that were original as fuck, songs like "Destroy and Rebuild" and "Ether" that were dis tracks on a major release at a time when dis songs just came back into the fold, tracks like "You're da Man" and the Intro that even the most underground loving heads should appreciate, tracks like "Every Ghetto" and "What Goes Around" that were uplifting and dumb official. I won't front like I was singing along to Braveheart Party (lol) but this joint is universally regarded as Nas' comeback album after a drop in his catalog. Shit was dope.

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Disposable Arts was my favorite album of that year so I'm happy with the results. To me, I couldn't get into Cold Vein like that, but I ain't mad at other people thinking it's dope.

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couldnt disagree more...a few of them tracks were cringe-worthy, and Ether was garbage, still don't get how people even like that track. it was like a semi-crossover pop album with catchy shit made for casual fans. The Intro was fire, the Large Pro track for sure, the Preem track was ehh, the rest...just wasn't good

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We can agree to disagree. I personally don't mind if shit is made with crossover appeal if I can still enjoy the beats and rhymes, which I really did. I'm not the biggest fan of Ether as I just didn't think the beat was that dope but I'd be fronting if I didn't see the impact of that record and what it meant to see a battle at the top NY at the time. While I didn't think it was the stronger song, it brought the word Ether into the urban dictionary and it's still used as a verb today. I don't love Ether as a song but I love what it did (and can listen to it within the context of that album).

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lex how am i too underground wen i wanted jay-z to win and stillmatic having no place in the top 5. people that voted nas over jay-z are too underground.

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That's not what I was saying. I had browsed through a few comments after reading the winner and a lot of them had some kind of remark about Stillmatic in a negative light. I'm not singling any one comment out, I read a bunch of things and responded with my remark. Crazy how everybody calls each other faggots here and no one bats an eye but when I say heads may be too underground heads is getting offended, lol.. Technically, to your point regarding your comment, ranking Jay Z over Nas would not be the "underground" thing to do. Although, I do think production-wise, The Blueprint did have more of a traditionalist approach in sound.

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picking ne jay-z album over a nas album is the opposite of an ughh head. i totally dont identify with the "ughh" head thing at all. i go back and listen to the stuff wen underground was big, late 90s to the early and mid 00s and a ton of it sounds as dated as the 90s stuff.

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i never understood why people called others "underground", or people claimed themselves to "be underground", rap is rap...whether you major pop act or you indie, hiphop still hiphop.

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Sorry guys, I won't use the U-Word anymore. I do agree, good and bad are the only distinctions that really matter when it comes to rap (or any music).

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its not even good or bad cuz this is "art" and its a taste thing or even a mood. some days i hate the stuff i love and love the stuff i supposedly hate.

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^nah, you hate everything....lol

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lex lol...i ain't offended at all, i just found it funny and even when cats used to use the term "oh you a backpacker"...shit was funny back then

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I can dig it

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What ETW is trying to say is that music is subjective not objective.

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It's not that Sillmatic isn't underground enough as much as it just flat out sucks for the most part. Blueprint would've either been my 6 or 7th choice given the opportunity.

2009 has an abundance of albums to choose from. I too don't think there's going to be a clear cut winner.

Just a reminder of what the past winners were...

2003



2005



2007

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i told clock via text that wen 00-09 is done, the 2000's best of voting should be cool.

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but of course the obvious pick for an underground head would go with stillmatic cuz hes the more lyrical one and jay being the "commercial faggot" pick cuz hes more flashy and bragging on every track. i just think everything on blueprint is better than stillmatic in every way and im not saying that cuz i like jay more or cuz i think reasonable doubt is better than illmatic. its pretty much the opinion across the board, of course except here. i better never get accused of trying to be different for the sake of being different again. that top 10 and this winner is the epitome of that. seriously startling

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Stillmatic and Cold Vein are the only two i'm not feeling in the Top 10. I haven't peeped Labor Days enough to decide. I'm pleasantly surprised Necro cracked the Top 10. Gory Days had some meh tracks but overall was pretty fucking dope. Nostalgia factor too as i went HAM in 2001 with it.

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ludacris word of mouf coulda took atleast 7 of these spots for me and pretty much those 7 spots from ne rap fan except the good people of ughh. its just annoying. thers tons of mainstream threads the last 5 yrs but its not showing up in these aoty threads which make me think ther all troll shit. cuz luda is better than fuckin j live lol

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pimps don't pay taxes not cracking the top 5 is kinda a bummer....

that album is damn near flawless in concept and execution. truly the greatest thing zone has ever done.

I don't mind DA being the winner, it's a rock solid album, but I don't think it's as good as a few of the albums that finished behind it.

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no mask if your taste is so great why most heads wont agree with, what is it about the albums that u mentioned that makes them less likeable in others people΄s mind, as you know i respect you and i thnik you are very intelligent but i just feel like you really want your opinion to be undebatable when is not

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