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ironkrylon

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posted Monday, October 02, 2017 5:49:23 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for ironkrylon
word at gore being the standout of non phixion. always was

im not real big on these guys in general, being honest here, but gore makes me wanna check for it

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sabac was the weaker link but hes the most positive non degenerate out of the crew, is an activist etc. but he didnt have a great solo debut like bill and gore. bill has like 4 dope solos and i might put him in the front of the pack emcee wise as he has more varying subject matter, emotion and has that warmer more realistic side where as gore is always the same; aids infested hookers abducted by u.f.o.s. fucking aliens in underground bases etc. gore is dope but likes to punch his verses in but they all do i think.

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posted Monday, October 02, 2017 7:37:23 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for ironkrylon
"aids infested hookers abducted by u.f.o.s. fucking aliens in underground bases etc"

lol irl. funny cuz its true

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posted Monday, October 02, 2017 12:55:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
ill bill outside of the conspiracy theory stuff shits all over goretex. i love wen bill actually raps like a hardcore new yorker and not some angry wigger geek. gore is dope but that conspiracy shit is his only lane and its a time and place thing, i cant peep him all the time

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posted Monday, October 02, 2017 10:06:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Yo mAdkAp i remember awhile ago you posted a Gore mixtape on here. Was it the Supercoven one?

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posted Tuesday, October 03, 2017 7:19:47 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Ideal for podcasting
Bill recieved his whole rap persona from William Cooper's book and bad gangster films, lol.

Paz references David Icke's theories and uses clips of him speaking, he constantly mocks Islam by using "his religion" as a way to mention his shocking terrorist activities.

Gore bores the shit out of me with his disjointed punch-in style of rap.

I'll listen for the Ill Bill verses, They can be dope if he raps like he did in 2003-2008

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 1:21:13 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for RAWintelligenc3
Their music is still better than most of the music mentioned on this forum.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 1:53:04 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
Clockworx, you mean in the thread about Ill Bill vs. Goretex first records ?

I mean I just posted up a bunch of loosie songs because someone suggested me 2 post up a mix and I really don't know how to do that.I'm a neandrathal when it comes to interwebz.

So if someone want to take those joints,make a tracklisting & make a mix - feel free to do it.

off the top of my head,i think the only songs that came from any mixtapes where a supercoven mixtape & a blend tape (i don't really care for blend tapes for the most part)

they were - Supercoven Decomposition Compilation

&

Goretex - Coffin Syrup

I mean someone wanted links on some Ill Bill tapes in that thread,I would have done it but I don't know anything about this computer stuff.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:08:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for the weatherman
bill at his best (future is now, barn of the naked dead, circle of tyrants) makes gore look like an absolute amateur.

unfortunately bill at his best just doesn't happen anymore and his voice has changed to some try hard type shit. this track was somewhat promising because of the beat, but I still think bill just doesn't sound right. I miss that society is brainwashed bill or the dude on 'barn of the naked dead' who just ripped apart his guest verses with a hunger rarely seen.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 11:10:15 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
They don't appreciate that lyrical cannibal murk your fucking world boom bap.

honestly it's not about whether i can appreciate it or not, it's just that type of subject matter is always super repetitive so an entire album of that will get old fast. i can only listen to rappers talking about conspiracy theories and how may different ways they're going to kill someone for so long. it's fine in small doses though.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 12:51:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Ideal for podcasting
Weatherman, the change was visible back just before he dropped Kill Devil Hills, he got married and started a family.

I think he had a good run, The Hour of Reprisal was his last decent record, in my opinion. He put together a pretty nice mixtape called Black Metal just before t.h.o.r, and peaked.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 1:17:02 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
black metal was great

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 1:29:55 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
i think people are full of shit. grimy awards was very dope. kill devil hills is very dope. the 4 howie made me do it volumes are all dope. trendy to hate on bill these days.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 1:35:27 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
^^^wat do we gain out of hating bill? he isnt even trendy

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 1:49:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^i dunno but a lot of uninformed comments on here about bill that show people are blind hating.

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i agree hour of reprisal was his last good shit and black metal. that muggs vs album was a poor mans bootleg sick jacken re-do. i cant take all that alien talk and conspiracy shit and deep chicano societys or watever the fuck he thinks will shock 17 yr old white kids. he did a freestyle last yr with nems on tony touch and sounded so good and killed that shit tho, bill is capable.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 5:17:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for the weatherman
blind hating?

I think bill is one of the most universally liked mc's on here, tbh.

grimy awards (which I liked) and kill devil hills (which was ok) were not very dope, and I think even most bill fans would say the same. could have been a lot better based on dudes talent and connections.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 5:57:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Spitboss
Track is meh.verses sound phoned in.I have a feeling this album had little effort put into it.Probably why Goretex is all over this.Space filler. The new JMT is what I'm looking forward to.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 6:22:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
Disagree

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 9:31:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Ideal for podcasting
Everyone on here has heard all his non mixtape albums, I'm sure. What else do we need to be aware of to be "informed" about Ill Bill?

Bill is still a good rapper, he just got lazy after starting a family, which is totally understandable.

This is a job to him at this point, you can tell he just slogs through it on his Kill Devil Hills and Grimy Awards albums. KDH has horrible vocal quality.

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posted Wednesday, October 04, 2017 9:34:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Grimy Awards was an overrated heap of trash, save for like 3 tracks.

Yo mAdkAp its the Coffin Syrup tape. Is that the blend one you're referring to?

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 1:15:42 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
Clock - I got like one song I posted up in that thread from Coffin Syrup and maybe? 2 from the Supercoven tape.

The rest of the songs were just straight up loosies.

Coffin Syrup is a blend tape that a fan made and then Supercoven just poached it.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 5:09:43 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^ see clock thats just an oddball and false opinion. heap of trash? how?, when the production is irrefutably crazy and bill holds it down proper.but you guys jock albums that are actually way weaker like open mike eagle (any album), corny ozzborn, that dud Roc album from this year etc. fuckers even slept on the dope electric lucifer goretex album. seems like people just dont like him as a person so they auto hate his projects.

whats wrong with bill- 4.5/5
hour of reprisal- 5/5
kill devil hills- 4/5
grimey awards- 4/5
HMK 1-5/5

i'd take bills discog over trendy roc marcianos any day.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 7:11:29 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
actually

kill devil hills- 4.5/5- amazing beats and bill kills it- major guest emcee line up.

Septagram- 3.5/5

everybody heard holy diver and the 4 howie made me do it comps?

bill >>>>>>>>>>>>> your fav rappers

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 7:21:36 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
kill devil hills is the best muggs vs. project by far.

funny how hard dope raw albums get slept on here but soft and/or inferior shit gets sweated.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 7:42:49 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
fuck it.

grimey awards is 4.5/5- so ill.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:22:15 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
lol ill bill's albums are honestly way cornier to me than anything onry or OME have ever put out, it is what it is.

my rating of ill bills albums that i've heard

ill bill is the future 2.5/5
what's wrong with bill 4/5
black metal 2.5/5
hour of reprisal 3/5
fathers of violence 2/5
kill devil hills 3.5/5
heavy metal kings 3/5
grimey awards 3.5/5
septagram 2.5/5

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:24:33 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
definitely a better rapper than necro though imo

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 10:48:00 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^lol at those ratings tip. you dont prefer hard rap anyways right? your more on that abstract tip. all good.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 10:51:50 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
well there's that, but i'm also just a harsh critic lol. i like hard rap too but i'm way pickier. if you want name an artist with a decent sized discography that you know i like, and i'll rate their albums, i'm sure my ratings of bill's albums wouldnt seem so bad.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 10:56:27 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^naw, no way. im the pickiest. haha

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 10:58:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
i should clarify, meant that i'm pickier when it comes to hardcore rap than i am with other types of music lol

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 11:09:23 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for the weatherman
the first hmk album is not a fuckin 5/5

if we're blind hating that has to be blind dickriding....that album has like 5 solid tracks with the rest being mostly garbage. shit is like a 2.5/5.

I liked grimy awards more than most and felt like it had some nice tracks, but that shit was probably a 3 or 3.5

his best album is whats wrong with bill, which is like a 4.5 maybe. could have been better to be honest, but he was laser focused on there and sounded hungry...and necro brought a ton of heat.

hour of reprisal is alright, but I wish there were more tracks like society is brainwashed and less tracks like a bullet never lies.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 12:20:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^see your saying his most basic one dimensional album (subject matter and beat wise) is better than his 2 well rounded best efforts(hour of..and grimey). your problem or for each their own. haha

if you think HMK 1 is only a 2.5 your crazy and only 5 good tracks? that just seems like being ultra picky/critical in order to feel extra refined/superior in your tastes but not assuming thats the case.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 2:39:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for the weatherman
how was 'whats wrong with bill' one dimensional? had tracks about tons of different subjects...some personal shit, political shit, etc.

bill actually sounded hungry on that album...like he loved mc'ing.

every album of his since just sounds like it's a job to him....going through the motions type shit. hour of reprisal has its moments, but it sounds more forced, imo. grimy awards is his most one dimensional record and the most basic and boring beat wise too....all those great producers and he got mostly their throwaways.

maybe it's just me in my old age, but I prefer most mc's at the beginning because that's when they actually sounded like they gave a fuck.

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the hour of.. had way more detail to the beats (change ups, samples etc)was more varying in production and subject matter and to me the beats on even grimey awards are iller than whats wrong with bill and there IS a more well rounded beat selection on grimey. grimey and hour of reprisal are both more mature subject wise and have more emotion and bills more open where as on what wronh- hes just all kill,drugs,occult etc. dope record though. for each there own.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 3:29:21 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^^ hes always sounded inspired , energetic and creative to me so i dont get that criticism. im sure he loves rapping/recording.

i defend him cause ive had personal experience with people questioning me for being a bill fan and peoples reasons for not liking him always seem questionable. met him and eclipse too and they were real humble and cool.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:37:24 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Grafh
Bill is a dope mc, he's done more than enough to solidify his legacy in the Hip Hop community. That being said, No Mask, you're overrating the fuck out of his projects bro. Bill's discog is filled with solid albums, which honestly there's nothing wrong with that, but dude has never dropped a 5/5 project.

I'm probably one of his most hardcore fans here, I own all of his shit and used to see him live whenever I could. but other than 'The Hour Of Reprisal', which I consider to be his best work, I don't think any of his projects rate above a 3.5, and that included his side work with Circle of Tyrants, La Coka Nostra, mixtapes, ect.

I just recently went back to ill bill is the future Vol. 2 though and man the nostalgia for that hit me hard. Bill's run up to the Hour of Reprisal was insane. Dude was at his most popular, he was dropping amazing loosies like "21" almost every week, and he started working with, and promising, that Raekwon album that never happened (same with that Sean P project smh). Vol. 2 is far from his best work, but that tape has everything I love about Bill on it.

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:52:24 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^whatever corky.

all his albums 3.5. or less? LOL

all his albums except septagram are above 3.5.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 1:23:47 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
yeah,I just revisted that thread. the music I posted in that thread is pretty much all Gore loosies -

https://www.undergroundhiphop.com/forums/readpost.asp?Forum=Common&Whichpage=1&Whichpage2=2&QuestionID=2920675&SearchYear=2017

if someone wants to make them into a mixtape feel free (i'll probably d/l it from you)

i can add this 2 :



the leg work is done,whoever wants 2 just got to figure out a dope tracklisting.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 5:13:06 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^that wholw Junior album is dope. in my top 10 for this year.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 4:32:23 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Yo no mask, in regards to Grimy Awards goes Forty Deuce Hebrew, How To Survive The Apocalypse, Vio-lence, Acid Reflux, L'Amour East, Power, Severed Heads of State, Canarsie High are the listenable tracks. Everything else is forgettable. Overall disappointing album cause with the production line up and guest spots this shit should've been a 7/10 album. Turned out to be a 5.5/10. The Truth was a weaker Pete Rock beat and didn't suit Bills style at all. That Premo track would've been aight but the dick sucking Bill did on it was cringy. Just way too hit or miss like most of Bill's shit.

Yo madkap are Gore and Tripper on every track on that Supercoven: Decomposition Compilation?

Been going HAM with Electric Lucifer last week and a half. Probably the most underrated album since it dropped four years ago. Front to back flames.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 4:38:55 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^ i agree bills premo worship on that track is corny and i think its the weakest point in the album. its the only issue i have. cant agree on the rest as all the beats are dope to me, track with pete rock beat is dope imo. agree to disagree.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 4:40:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Yo no mask what you think of Electric Lucifer? Didn't you make a thread awhile ago about it?

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^yeah man- i was always pushing it on here like i do sometimes when i feel a releases is not getting its due. its great in a lot of ways but is a hard listen and lacks replay. all the crazy content (occult, dead hookers, aliens in antarctica etc) gets redundant and his unchanging style gets boring. mostly all dope beats. i feel like he nailed the concept though, some dope guest appearences (young dirty etc), hard dark beats match his subject matter well. dope ass album cover too.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 4:55:10 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
It was a little long winded in terms of running time but subject matter is what I've always expecting from Gore. I don't mind it cause I'm not going into it expecting these complex rhyme schemes or deep introspective tracks. His imagery is on point and i fuck with his more obscure drug references.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 4:57:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^hes a dope emcee- unique and interesting to say the least. you have to work a bit to catch what hes saying which is good.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 10:26:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
Clock - Supercoven Demcomposition Compilation is like 80% Jak Tripper if not more.

Gore just makes appearances on the songs I put up from it.

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 10:30:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
So Art of Dying and Electric Lucifer only two full length Gore projects right? Damn shame that Hyde got two full fucking volumes of Rare Demos and Gore didn't even get one.

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posted Saturday, October 07, 2017 10:36:36 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
There's a bootleg Goretex - Rare demos & freestyles.Someone on here,Tyrone Shoes hooked me up with it.

I don't have it anymore,I had never seen it before and I never saw it again.

If someone is good with computers maybe they can find it or ask Tyrone Shoes but he's not really on here anymore.

He did EL album like 2/3 times over.He lost the music but if he ever found it &/or it leaked I know he had a song with PMD and another song with Smoothedahustla.

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posted Saturday, October 07, 2017 11:30:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
I found a track listing...

01 - Out to Lunch
02 - Junkies wit Guns
03 - Mayhem
04 - Search
05 - 89.9 Freestyle
06 - Tech 9
07 - War is Everywhere
08 - Gettin Dusted
09 - Creep
10 - Dept of Forensics
11 - Whispers
12 - Revolutionize
13 - WBCR Part 1
14 - WBCR Part 2
15 - Spaces Around Me
16 - Frank 151
17 - No Tommorow
18 - Hot 97 Freestyle
19 - One for the Butcherknife
20 - One for Your Anus
21 - Bacardi and Acid
22 - Sneakers
23 - Freestyle at Unknown Source part 1
24 - Freestyle at Unknown Source Part 2
25 - Brains Gonna Burst


But the link was from 10 years ago and is dead. Side note but just made a Goretex Playlist on Spotify. It's at 58 songs right now. For some reason Art of Dying instrumentals is on there but not the actual album so none of those are included on the Playlist.

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