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Hardworking Creative Beat Makers Still Get Paid Last.
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Dyme Secta

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:20:15 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Dyme Secta
Beat makers getting paid last is craziness. Without the beat the song is not done.

This practice of not justly compensating beat makers is fascinating and puzzling.

Beat makers spend a lot of time in the creative process. Often passing the role

of making important business decisions off to other people. Or failing to address these choices at all.

Resulting in not receiving payment for services upon services being rendered.

There can be a 6 to 10 month gap between a beats delivery and use.

The beat maker may or may not see some if any form of compensation.

Rough! Is it time to revisit and revise this practice of doing business as it relates to beat making?

Let me know what you think post a reply. Later.

- dymesecta




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SC1989

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:23:29 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for SC1989
Learn to Emcee and rob your fans
Problem sorted

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:30:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
me too

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:38:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
work harder, you hack.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:40:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
it's a good thing dyme secta adds his name to the bottom of each of his posts, otherwise we would have no idea who it is.

- tippingdale "tippi" dink, mayor of bluffington

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wicked 22.2

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 4:04:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wicked 22.2   Click Here to Email wicked 22.2
lulz good post dyme seca.

Yeah I agree. Thx for bringing that up bro. Food for thought, mon.

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Seme__one

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 4:45:35 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Seme__one
charge more

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BEATSMITH

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 5:09:15 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for BEATSMITH
If you don't want to risk being treated like a sucker just do exclusives

Alternatively stop working with scumbags/idiots with no appreciation or vision

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Lit Jagger

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:45:28 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Stupid post, a known beat maker can sell his beat for $100-$100,000 and it only takes a day to make a beat

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no mask

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:50:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^a day to make a beat? dope beats are made in under 2 hours all the time.

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felipedahiphopadict01

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posted Wednesday, September 27, 2017 11:36:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for felipedahiphopadict01
i agree with no mask while i have no clue how to make a beat i´ve watched diferent beat makers, create good beats within a few hours

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no mask

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posted Thursday, September 28, 2017 12:08:05 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
my whole life for over 5 years was watching/writing/freestyling while a producer made a beat. and were talking various different producers. saw all the gear and producers styles. takes a few hours tops with dope sample beats. but if your on some El-P and even madlib shit it might take a day with all the synths added with samples.

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Dyme Secta

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 9:02:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Dyme Secta
Revisiting older incomplete beats happens a lot. Sometimes years later.
A well organized file management protocol is important to do this.

Some beats have elements that sound better over a period of time.
Ironically many beats still get archived and beat makers pockets are suffering.

21st century emcees have a boon in the form of access to hyper connected
social platforms. Rare find beats are a just a message away.

SC1989 - That might work short term. Not for a defined legacy.

Mayor Tippi - That's real. Are you more creative or business driven?

88 - Do you have a problem?

Wicked 22.2 - Right. Especially for the younger people about to come up.

Seme_one - That's a possible option over time.

BEATSMITH - Fascinating perspective.

Lit Jagger - Let you tell it.

nomask - Did business run smoothly?

felipedahiphopadict01 - Should a producer be paid first or last?

Beat makers and emcees in the purest form are in a great time like no other.
Creative collaboration between two or more individuals operating

harmoniously can be worked out with minimal effort. Cheats, Nay Sayers, and
Hypocrites are being removed from the equation. Today they lost more ground. Later.

- dymesecta

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mAdkAp

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 10:35:20 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
I really doubt anyone is getting $100,000.00 a beat in 2017.

I mean the market is saturated,the internet blew it up.

The internet blew up emcees 2,back in the day you had to like hold your own and get approval from crowds at places like Latin Quarter.Now all you need is pro tools etc... In 1995 you would not know of Admiral Crumple,Observe (not that anyone knows of them or cares about their music whatsover but you get what I mean)

You had to earn your stripes back then.

Internet changed all that.

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dR.prOf

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posted Monday, October 09, 2017 2:09:19 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dR.prOf   Click Here to Email dR.prOf
I do think that producers should get as much or more money/recognition as rappers, but that'd only happen in a perfect world. Other than famous producers who can tour or sell hits, i always assumed that producers never quit their day jobs

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fool blast

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posted Monday, October 09, 2017 2:41:47 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for fool blast
rodney jenkins discusses the pay for a bieber single that he got royalties on....it barely comes out to 6 figures


https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/10/03/hit-song-justin-bieber-royalties/



"Sirius XM, not bad. 1,509 spins, earned him $765 dollars.

“You ready for this?
“Pandora: 38,225,700 spins earned him $278.


[audience laughs; starts talking; one person says ‘WOW!’]

“I’m not finished.

[audience quiets down]
“YouTube: 34,220,900 spins earned him $218.17.

[chatter in the audience]"



gotta think outside the box now...artists like j-zone pretty much switched genres & are getting music placements on tv shows. thats smart....

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mAdkAp

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posted Monday, October 09, 2017 6:55:28 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
^yeah,everyone had to diversify their income^


they had to figure out other lanes - TV shows,commercials - this one is way harder 2 get but if you can get the gig it'll probably pay the most (depending on the size of the project)- scoring films.

I mean Araabmuzik switched up to EDM and now tours off that with people like Skrillex.I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if Araabmuzik hates EDM but he's going to chase the bag regardless.

A lot of beatmakers that just navigate in just one more trendy type of sound ie/drill or trap have completely shut down their company.Like you can literally get on Social media ask them for a beat and they will tell you straight up - I don't do that anymore, $=per hour it doesn't make sense.

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Monday, October 09, 2017 7:08:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
i heard craig mack flava in ya ear on a commercial. holy shit.

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Dyme Secta

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:38:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Dyme Secta
Right. Podcast intros, sounds for ancillary interfaces, environmental sound design are feasible alternatives for now.

mAdkAp - Strong insight.

dR.prOf - Right.

fool blast - Good looking out for the data. Rare form.

Alfredo - Yeah that's one of them.

Time will tell. Beat makers have creativity and innovation on their side. Sound disagreement from those people
who benefit from the practice for them to be paid most first and the beat maker least last. Later.

- dymesecta

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lil mex

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:01:36 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for lil mex
Jamal = illmind

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