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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 9:12:26 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
with all this hype over that over rated fake off the head (10 min dope written verse) and all those fools out there thinking its actually off the head, the arguments here and on a bunch of different sites, many people on the net trying to say he's the g.o.a.t. or top 5 the d.o.a.. your thoughts on that shit.

and

What emcees do you think are overall more dope and skilled? (more well rounded ,multi-dimensional, more stylistic, more dense and creative subject matter wise etc.)


I'll start with my go to emcee:

Myka 9- undeniably way more dope and skilled in every way. way more styles, more flow/rhythm, soul, more breath control skill, more vocab, way more wordplay, more creative, more well rounded subject matter wise etc etc.


is there any emcee better then black thought?lol



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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 9:28:10 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
KNowself>>>

His three albums surpassed Black Thought as an Mc abt a dillion times over.

Also Admiral Crumple.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 9:34:24 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
were talking overall skill etc. not someones catalogue or how many times they rapped exactly the same way.

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88

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:15:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
yawn

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Norman Stansfield

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:17:01 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Norman Stansfield
a week later.....

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:21:57 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
man how are you gonna bring up subject matter as a measurement of skill and then say that an artists discography shouldn't be part of the discussion?

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If its based off skill as an mc alone and not beats etc?



K rino - way more styles, incredibly detailed story telling, has a better use of concepts, dope punches, more varied delivery...

Gift Of gab - master of the rhyme scheme, better delivery, use of multis, lyrical substance etc.

Aesop

Eyedea

Pharoahe monch

I mean the list could go on, but being technically skilled doesnt always equate to great music.

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Nassau William Senior

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:38:07 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Nassau William Senior
just when I thought no mask took 1 step forward...he takes 2 steps backwards with this thread. lol at myka 9 over black thought.

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k-dean
dalima
t-nutty
JL
krayzie bone
d-loc the gill god
twisted insane
tech n9ne

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:42:55 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Norman Stansfield
Mr. Hyde, end of thread.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:43:21 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
froggy fresh might be better than black thot

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Sultan of Slumpin

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:43:47 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Sultan of Slumpin
i could list 100 mcs i like better than black thought....but whats the point. black thought is great, but not a guy i listen to, lets move on

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:49:49 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
there are so many factors being overlooked by someone that says myka9 is better than black thought. it's an unfortunate result of a cold robot logic approach to evaluating a rapper's skills. rapping is a very complicated form of expression, and it can't always be reduced to "checking off the boxes". it's also just plain stupid to get this petty about trying to compare someone to someone else in regards to something as hard as rapping. yeah, we compare rappers on here all the time, but in a pretty superficial way. to get this serious/petty about it, it's just foolish. on top of that, to get this serious about it, while overlooking a lot of what goes into rapping in your evaluations... i mean, fuck this thread. honestly.

anyway, i'm going to start the year end threads now, so we can compare all the albums, lol. what a hypocrite, i am.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 10:50:59 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
but whats the point. black thought is great, but not a guy i listen to, lets move on

well said. end thread.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 11:20:59 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Post Coital Cigarette
no mask, just listen to this mellow track and chill dude



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LEX718

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 11:27:42 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for LEX718
Here's my list:

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 11:33:56 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
riff raff possibly but def stitches

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SC1989

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 11:40:12 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for SC1989
Es-1
Crumble
Fahim
Lit
Princess Superstar
Peter Pablo
Magoo

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:01:44 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
so 5th point actually able to name a bunch. on point too.

everybody else got their panties bunched up.

you guys can complain all you want but this was a big topic the past week (obviously)and many are saying black thoughts the g.o.a.t., a bunch on here took offense to my comments about him SO im curious to see who people name.

you gotta wonder what people know and how deep they've explored rap/emcees when their saying thought is the g.o.a.t. or top 5 d.o.a.!?

i know many praising thought havent even heard of the goodlife or emcee's like:

Eligh
Aesop rock
Dose one



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88

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:06:27 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
i would never consider black a goat, but it also feels uncomfortable to hear people casually dismiss him. he's not the greatest, but he's great.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:07:55 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
perhaps damu vignettes

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:11:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
you know what 88 , you have some points and maybe i deserve some of that.

and to everyone else- i can take some heat and jokes. maybe i shouldnt have done this thread.

BUT- many had such big issues with my comments on black thought/his 10 min verse that im just curious to see who thinks who is doper. whats the harm.

if people dont like the concept-ignore and move on? no? isnt it a bit petty to complain about 1 little thread?

anyhow. nobodies perfect. thread concept is a bit redundant i know.

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Nassau William Senior

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:14:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Nassau William Senior
i know many praising thought havent even heard of the goodlife or emcee's like:

Aesop rock


Yeah, I don't think anyone has heard of Aesop Rock on here. He's actually Lupe Fiasco's best friend. People need to do the knowledge on Aesop Rock...

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:22:02 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
wen ur going on no masks basis for great mc u can add people like r.a. the rugged man and chino xl but ther far from black thought. but at the same time, he has no solo album. a real fan will take everything into account, even outside the music. and its jay-z and eminem. end these goat lists. nobody will ever be as successful as them unless ther name is kanye and drake. and i hate all 4 of them and even i can admit that.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:24:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^ ive been saying all along that he's very dope and he's great etc. he's an important legend who's way above average. what keeps amazing me is people got so mad cause i said that verse wasnt AMAZING!

i just wanna keep the standards high and give lesser known more talented emcees some light unlike those on ambrosia for heads who think it was actually an off the head.lol

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:29:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
its disgusting but this is legit the top 5 everyone should have without bias and hate in ther heart.



in order:



jayz
eminem
kanye
tupac
drake
^^^terrible but true

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:32:01 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
at nws

i meant in the world not this forum. i know many on here know but on some of the bigger more mainstream sites its laughable.

i have also always had an issue with and find it mad corny when the mainstream trys to prop up some popular emcee as the best or the top 5 or they give an emcee never ending props but they wont talk about underground emcees that are more talented. also corny when mainstream fans that have barely scraped the surface wanna say someones the best.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:46:20 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
Aceyalone
Self jupiter
killah priest
Pharoahe Monch
chino xl
eyedea
eminem


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sc wins

i taught black thought how to break deez fuols ankles with the verbal crossover

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im pretty sure i birthed eminem and cage style even tho ther older than me. and im dead set positive i can spit better acapella than marshall.

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|=|

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Wow. no mask, you catch the heat you do because of your arrogance and presenting your opinion and fact. It’s really that simple. Also, your dismissiveness and lack of respect for conflicting opinions. If someone does disagree with you, it’s immediately dismissed as “your brainwashed by the system” or some bullshit like that. Or “do the knowledge”.

Who gives a damn if this user thinks Black Thought is the GOAT or this user thinks Kendrick is the GOAT? Any GOAT discussion is strictly opinion and personal.

They only way you can determine a GOAT is pre-defined criteria that is clearly laid out and based on facts (record sales, net worth, number of shows, ticket sales, merch sales, etc... however you want to define it or whatever measureable, factual criteria you want to use). Without that criteria, it’s all just opinion. And there’s no right or wrong answer. If you respected that from other users, people might respect yours. Just saying.

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|=| just brought the heat

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salute i=i/// i still need a beat homie!

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 2:31:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
who is a better rapper, Knowself or Black Thought?

Gotta go with knowself said nobody ever.

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Pun

That stuck pig motherfucker made your man Black Thought look like that picked scab fagget crimple on that colab track.

/thread

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^^welcome back. can you post some crumple rolls? I can't find the pic.

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nvrmnd

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CAChri$t(IE)

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 3:10:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
Knowself post a song of yours that displays your skills on the mic better than Black Thought on The Web

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2pac
Jay Z
Lupe

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Observe you light beige fagget, I was just going through threads for like an hour. Jesus Christ, you've gone from an annoying weird creep fuck to a full whopping mongoloid fucktard. Hopefully for Christmas someone drags you behind a 7/11 and gimps your fucking hands so you have to blow retard responses on UGHH threads through a straw. Fuck off.

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crOwcaine!!!

My man. I created a thread for you on audio advice.

I needed a sub - svs subwoofer pb12 plus was acquired. Hope you approve.

We haven't spoke since Nucky caught a hot one in the face.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 3:49:25 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
anybody with a problem can eat a fat one! bunch of whiners crying cause i questioned the over rated black thought. boo fuckin hoo!

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 4:15:05 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
Actually we’re all just laughing at you bc you suck

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 4:18:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^your the useless goof on here all day with no substance or purpose. weird ramblings/comments-irrelevant as it gets! your moms the one who sucks. you little punk.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 4:30:19 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
waaa! no mask criticized black thought and his verse- waaaaaaa!

first off- he passed it off on fallon like it was off the head- not cool.

2nd- same style for 10 minutes- yawn

3rd- reciting pre writtens for 10 minutes aint hard especially when you have it all memorized/know it by heart and have the performance planned.

4th-many emcees are iller

5th- get his balls out of your mouth

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 5:03:25 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
lmao cmon son

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 5:09:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^ forget it cachristi.

i dont judge anybody on here. i dont even know anybody on here. respect to all. sometimes i react over the top to negative comments and/or get sucked into negative arguments and petty debates but then feel shitty cause the negativity urks me. i know all my opinions arnt fact even if at times i phrase things in a way that appears like i think im all knowing.

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 5:15:56 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
not too many better then the legend black thought and his catalogue is crazy. those roots are one of the best to do it!

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are u ready

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percee p
melle mel
granmaster caz
rakim
kool keith
el da sensei
prince po
asheru
planet asia
just ice
t la rock
greg nice
kool moe dee
rise
celph titled
chace infinite
lord digga
masta ace
defari
are all better than BT and so are many other but u know what I like blck THOUGHT HE HAS MADE QAULIity music over the years so this is a dumb thread

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posted Wednesday, December 20, 2017 5:53:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
That’s more like it

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Lolol fucking bizzaro world were corny ass myka 9s and celph titled are better than Black Thought. You n*ggas are cray

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There's only one...

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