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Thunny Brasko

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posted Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:40:08 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Thunny Brasko   Click Here to Email Thunny Brasko

We sincerely regret but the new Lone Catalysts'; album ';Culture'; will not be available on at ughhdotcom because of their unfair policy towards independent record labels‼;;️;;
For all our US fans, CD';s &; LP';s will be available on our bandcamp with reduced shipping costs ☝;;️;; pic.twitter.com/BhFp8CJ8lI

— EFFISCIENZ ( at EFFISCIENZ) November 15, 2017

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Nassau William Senior

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posted Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:47:25 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Nassau William Senior


LOL at the one response...so true.



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eseph84

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posted Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:55:23 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for eseph84   Click Here to Email eseph84
damn can i still get that jr makno album here, i was prob gonna get it eventually?

i wonder what the issue is???

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Paper Piff And Polo

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posted Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:14:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
I think you need to take this up with Customer Service
Here's the #
1 (800) 666 UGHH(8444)

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iconthemicking (Admin) UGHH Artist

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posted Thursday, November 16, 2017 6:03:17 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for iconthemicking
I'm still trying to get to the bottom of this. I'll get back to y'all when I have more information.

In the meantime there's this: https://mobile.twitter.com/TheFakeJSands/status/931175454903595008

And this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bbj4sa0l45m/

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Porkelin

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posted Saturday, November 18, 2017 11:36:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
What policy do they think is unfair?

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WiCkEd22

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posted Saturday, November 18, 2017 12:15:56 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for WiCkEd22   Click Here to Email WiCkEd22

I know in the past some artists/record labels didn't like having to give 2 free copies plus pay the shipping to ship the records to UGHH. Not sure if that's still how it works.

Whatever the case I always feel it's wack when an MC, Duo or Group from the USA release an Album or EP that's pressed overseas but not available for purchase here in the USA. That's just stupid as fuck!! I do think if the MC, Duo or Group can't find a store or stores to sell the album that they should sell the album themself through their Bandcamp page (plenty of artists end up doing that, but not enough).

What I wanna know in regards to this album is why on the Bandcamp page for this album it says "Produced by Lone Catalysts" when in FACT it was DRUMAT!C of KicDrum Products who produced the joint THE DJ.

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WiCkEd22

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posted Saturday, November 18, 2017 12:28:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for WiCkEd22   Click Here to Email WiCkEd22

And btw, the last time I checked on the Effiscienz website the shipping for the Vinyl LP was $16, clearly not reduced. I can order one Vinyl record from Vinyl Digital and pay about $6 for shipping. I'd say go buy the record there people, it's up for pre-order now due out Dec 15...

- www.vinyl-digital.com/en/Hip-Hop-Rap/Culture-vinyl.html


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Llingo

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posted Sunday, November 19, 2017 11:43:45 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Llingo   Click Here to Email Llingo
J Sands is a bum ass fraud anyhow, he is a beat jacket he steals beats, and probably has a ghost writer too, I feel sorry for j Rawls. https://twitter.com/thefakejsands/status/932283636799418369

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WiCkEd22

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posted Monday, November 20, 2017 1:02:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for WiCkEd22   Click Here to Email WiCkEd22

^Peace Llingo. Yeah, I was goin back & forth with J.Sands on Twitter. He's a fuckin fgt. It's no wonder J.Rawls doesn't fuck with his shady ass anymore. I don't know why he gets to use the name "Lone Catalysts" when it's only Sands. This is a solo album as Lone Catalysts is a duo.

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tippi dink

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posted Monday, November 20, 2017 1:12:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
^ didn't j rawls produce this album? there's nothing indicating that he wasn't involved

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eseph84

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posted Monday, November 20, 2017 2:34:30 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for eseph84   Click Here to Email eseph84
j rawls been promoting the release party, lol he ain't on it? wtf

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Llingo

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posted Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:11:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Llingo   Click Here to Email Llingo
He was sacrcastic but he was also telling the truth and trying to troll wicked and myself on Twitter with his sacrasm. He's jacked at least two beats from Drumz and Llingo and who knows who else. Peace to Wicked for coming correct on twitter and calling him out. Us independent artists work hard and grind...and for most of us our credits and recognition of contribution is more important than the little loot we end up taking away from Process.

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gustav

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:35:49 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for gustav
Hello, this is some answers.

The fact is UGHH owe EFFISCIENZ money since more than 1 year, as an independant label we can lose any money, the future of the label depend on the money wich is IN...not OUT!

About J-Sands, I hope he have his own conscience to deal with that...that project was probably the worst we have to deal with at Effiscienz...J-Sands never wanted to give us all the credits informations...it was hard as fuck!...We'll never work again with him!

And last but not least, we hope as son as possible our own online shop...so we will be able to have the better prices as possible…

Hope all is making sense for you…
Peace,
Gustav

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eseph84

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:38:14 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for eseph84   Click Here to Email eseph84
THANKS GUSTAV, I still need the mahkno album


J SANDS SOUNDS LIKE A BUM

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lex718

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:15:44 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for lex718
Kinda breaks my heart to hear the album doesn't properly credit the correct producers. It's hard to justify purchasing something like that and sad to think the artist is belittling his peers when being confronted on it. I've been a Lone Catalyst fan for a long time and when this album came out it was like a breathe of fresh air to me. Sounded like Rawls and Sands still had that magic. It's one of my top albums of the year. The entire theme of this project surrounds the culture of Hip Hop. That shark shit needs to be removed from the culture.

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iconthemicking (Admin) UGHH Artist

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:04:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for iconthemicking
Gustav,

I am not sure who owes you money, but it's certainly not UndergroundHipHop.com, LLC.

You can keep playing this game if you like, but then I'll have to start showing screenshots from our accounting software that shows UGHH has paid you $3,607 since 2014 including a check for $953 in August to catch up on back pay that UGHH owed you from before I bought it. If you keep wanting to go this route then my next step is to get our lawyers involved for a public defamation claim.

My best guess is that you believe UndergroundHipHop.com, LLC owes you money for something that Quest may have omitted paperwork regarding the our purchase of the company. If that's the case, then your issue is with Quest and not this company.

We've generally been pretty understanding and offered something in those cases, but at this point that's certainly off the table for you.

Best of luck with your online shop.

-MK

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gustav

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:13:10 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for gustav
Hello MK, thank you for your answer.

You know, we are not playing a "game", we have more insteresting thing to do.
There is one mistake about what I said, the money owe is not from 1 year, but since august, and yes we had money on august, and Yes, UGHH paid us since 2014 as you mention.

There is something going wrong...Loscar, Effiscienz CEO, sent a lot of emails to a guy from UGHH finance dept "Wolfgang"...0 answer since August…some answerss from Adam...but his answers dont help...in fact there is 5 invoice unpaid...

So...yes, maybe there is something wrong with Quest as you suggest…

We really hope that issue will be solved soon...we didnt want that to happen, our goal is to work with UGHH not to struggle!

Hope all what I said make sens...I do my best with my english level!

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iconthemicking (Admin) UGHH Artist

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:09:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for iconthemicking
If it was after Auguet, it was not Quest. However, I don't have a single invoice for you after August in our system.

Send whatever alleged invoices directly to Mike at UGHH.com and I'll review them.

Outside of that, you can rest assured that ypur relationship with this company is over

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Litney Spears

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:16:51 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney Spears
You guys should take it to court and the judge decide none of us here know the full details without paper work

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Litney Spears

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:18:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney Spears
A business under LLC owes me about $500, my boy about $3000, they owe a few other people also , this was back in 2012

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s-agent

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:07:28 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for s-agent
well that was a fun read

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gustav

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:06:08 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for gustav
And how to reach "Mike"?...

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Paper Piff And Polo

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:38:49 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
$2000 since 2014?
Lol lets see 15 bucks a c.d
Thats roughly like 200 albums sold in 3 years. No wonder these guys suck and are broke beggin for handouts cause they only sell like 100 albums a year lol
Whoop. Whoop. Lol
Your not even on Crumple's level son!!!
Hahaha

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NoHeadlights

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:36:55 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for NoHeadlights
If a independent label can't cough up 2 free copies of a CD they need to fuck off furreal, a CD is lie $1.30 pressed up, I know becuz I've pressed up cds before, goofy ass cheap Indy labels

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 8:51:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Wow, this thread got interesting quick.

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Mental Patient UGHH Artist

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:29:42 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
It's my hope that the party and ughh.com and resolve this and be cool - or part ways and don't deal - with no hard feelings.

I will say that I have had nothing but positive business experiences with both Quest and Icon since 2005.

Cataphonic Productions and ughh.com always did good business where both of us were good.

It's mutual respect. Ughh gave me a huge platform and I'm forever grateful for that!

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Litney Spears

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:38:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney Spears
Shut the fuck up fa real

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Litney Spears

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:39:02 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney Spears
You can't even get a show in your city talmbout ughh gave you a huge platform

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NoHeadlights

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posted Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:47:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for NoHeadlights
Crumple got a new track with drake, killy and Billy ray, titled Toronto's finest

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Gustav

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:46:01 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gustav
Mental Patient...thats our hope too you know...that is sad to get some reactions here from Ughh when we talk in the forum and see that so many emails got no answer at all...its frustrating.

Ni Headlight...good for you if did cds before.whatever the amount of money we are talking about whatever the numbers of records Effiscienz have sent to ughh...thats is not interresting...
Paper Pif...who said Effiscienz never send free copies ? Stop imagine things...thats so easy to talk when you dont know details...its not the point here.

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Litney Spears

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:28:49 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney Spears
I mean in all fairness , shit doesn't matter anyway , icon is prob right when I think about. The reason is, is you're a nobody. You have only sold 100 cds on this site I bet in you're 5 or however years of rapping.
So let's do the math right quick

You sold 100 cds on ughh. Which means you have shipped ughh.com 200 cds

Ughh.com pays you $8 a CD. That's $800 to your label. Your label splits the profits with you or whoever . You are supposed to get $200 from the ughh transaction in your 5 year period dealing with them. So you're saying ughh didn't pay you guys the $800 they owe? But everyone is saying they paid half. That's $400 they owe the label

Which you would of got $100. So in 5 years you made $200 on paper but only $100 in real money ?

Look bro. Why don't you find a job because you seriously can't afford to hire a lawyer with $100 sitting in your pocket.

Now home depot is a great job. You can make the $100 quest owes you in one day.

Think about it and I'll give you my email if you need a recommendation on the app

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Gustav

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:34:20 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gustav
Loool Litney Spears...you are so funny.
Stop doing maths with that discution...

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Litney Spears

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:36:31 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Litney Spears
Oh so you're English

Start doing grime instead

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NoHeadlights

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:44:01 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for NoHeadlights
Co sign gustav, that was a terrible calculation korim

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gustav

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 3:16:25 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for gustav
OK...so you think I'm English...and maybe you think I'm a MC?...

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Seme__one

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:06:49 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Seme__one
wait wait wait......is there some 40 year old guy who stacks shelves at Home Depot giving someone else career advice?

What a world we live in!

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Paper Piff And Polo

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:56:01 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
Fuck you Gustav!
Go eat some goulash you fuckin limey bastard!

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Gustav

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:06:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gustav
I love you to Paper Piff !
Goulash is a very tasty recipe !

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Paper Piff And Polo

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:10:19 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
You location ahould say Gay Paris

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Gustav

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:25:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gustav
You seem so smart with your free insults...good guy !

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Phatbeets

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:25:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Phatbeets
baja

outta here Korim

you derp

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Phatbeets

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:26:49 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Phatbeets
also

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Paper Piff And Polo

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posted Thursday, December 14, 2017 3:56:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
You the one on here tryin to get over on people with your wack azz albums

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