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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:54:11 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo


is everyone on par that this is unversally classic, unique, original for the time and ahead of its time? some beats are minimal but work so well and are super dope like on "come clean". his flow was smooth but chopped a bit with pauses and stops but it ran like syrup down a pancake stack. ther really isnt a bad song on this. from "d.original" to "the biches" to "my mind spray" this is front to back a fully playable album. to the point as well with a tracklist that isnt long winded. 13 tracks and no song exceeds 4 mins an some change. masterfully crafted. i love the follow up but this gets the edge.



fav song: My Mind Spray

post yall thoughts???

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:55:50 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
prolly a top 10 pre 1995 rap album for me.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:58:34 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for breathcontrol
Agreed. Love Jeru. Wrath of the Math was really good too. Subsequent LPs, while not on par with the 1st 2 Premo produced, all have some really dope songs.

Just listened to this yesterday:

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:59:25 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
i wonder if statik selektah got his name statik from the jam that closes this album

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:00:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
i dont have still rising but ive also never seen it in my cd excursions.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:01:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
cosign the OP. one of the all time intricate goats.

even though this album's a personal fav, i've never really fucked with wrath of the math, tbh.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:01:51 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
intricate goat for sure.



jeru>>>>>>>gza
as far as dropping gems

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88

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:07:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
it's too bad jeru and preemo had a falling out. losing his relationship with preem probably caused him to lose his relationship with the majority of the industry. it's too bad he never made an album with large pro, because they've had some nice tracks together.

i think it's safe to say this is one of preemo's top 3 albums, right? does anyone disagree?

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:11:48 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for breathcontrol
This is dope. Jeru kills his piece.

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:13:08 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
cosign 88

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:16:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
man this must have been one of the first 90s hip hop albums i ever heard, and it's still one of my favorites from that era. i'm pretty sure i found out about jeru through gang starr actually. i know for a fact that i had just turned 13 because my family took a trip to wildwood NJ that summer and i remember listening to this, deltron 3030, 3rd eye vision, 93 til infinity, and moment of truth a ton on repeat almost the entire time. whenever i revisit to those albums it takes me right back to that family vacation, it's crazy how vivid some of those memories are lol.

i loved wrath of the math too, but the sun rises is the better of the two imo. it's a great album from beginning to end. love that intro where he's reciting the opening from fist of the north star.

"Life is the result of the struggle between dynamic opposites
Form and Chaos, Substance and Oblivion, Light and Dark
And all the infinite variations of Yin and Yang
When the pendulum swings in favour of one
It will eventually swing in favour of it's opposite
Thus the balance of the universe is maintained"



favorite tracks:

my mind spray
you can't stop the prophet
ain't the devil happy
come clean
d. original

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:18:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
^^^good stuff lol wildwood is a shithouse. still not as bad as atlantic city or seaside as far as shitbag central but close.



i have an ocean city nj story that has to do with big pun at 12 actually. weird how things match up like that.

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88

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:24:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
it's one of those rare 80s/90s albums where the "song-for-the-ladies" - in this case, da bitchez - actually works, rather than sticking out like a sore thumb, and throwing the tonal consistency of the whole album out of wack (see: big daddy kane's first album).

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88

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:26:44 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
that's actually a topic i think we've never really discussed on ughh. the obligatory song-for-the-ladies songs on albums. they seem to have died off a bit in the early 00's with the rise of the underground, but 50 cent was still making songs like 21 questions in the mainstream.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:30:29 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
they seem to be non-existent, nowadays, on regular albums. on an album by drake, sure, those songs are there, because that's basically every song on the album. but most albums, even mainstream ones, don't have the obligatory song-for-the-ladies anymore. hell, the closest thing to an ode to women in dr. dre's compton is a few misogynistic lines in eminem's verse on medicine man, lol.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:51:19 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
I was just bumpin this album yesterday
Wrath Of The Math was good too

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:55:49 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for eseph84   Click Here to Email eseph84
I DO THEM STILL

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:56:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
they still have girl songs. i revisit these 90s albums and the girl jams are some of the best. "the biches" is my second favorite song on here. reminds me of the movie kids

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:58:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
It wasnt me it was the papers.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:58:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jamesbond
Album is bonkers!

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:58:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jamesbond
have the Lp signed

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Paper Piff And Polo

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:59:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
"One Day" Lupe might be this good lol
Like how I did that?

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:00:19 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
amazing, perfect album. as you said even the minimal beats like static, come clean are too dope. i remember when i first heard the beat for d. original i flipped.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:01:36 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
Sorry I already moved on to Wrath Of The Math
My bad!

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wrath of the math is almost as good. has more songs though so maybe as good. songs like physical stamina, invasion, prophet 2, too perverted, scientific madness. a 4.5/5 classic album.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:05:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
Scientifical Madness is classic
Whatever is classic
Its all cause of those dope Premier beats

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:06:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
thers no filler on this. wrath has a few that kinda lag the album somethin boring. plus 12-13 tracks is the perfect length of a rap album. seriously like 48-55 mins is perfect.

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this is a classic gem, i bought it in like 02-03 when i worked at cd game exchange. i would get the hook up on all the classic albums (brand new $10 special ordered) i still needed to get in my collection back when i still had a lot to discover. this was one of those gems. wrath i got used from my store probably for free. best job i ever had

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:15:08 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
You seriously cant judge an album by the lenth thats fuckin ridiculous.
Why do you care how long it is?
It has 15 tracks
one intro so its basically 14 songs
Unless your listening in a cassette tape who gives a fuck?
Out of the 14 I would say there are 12 good songs in my opinion.
4-5 maybe classic
So theres only 2 sup par tracks out of 14 in my opinion
Also that album hasnt aged well with time either.
Especially when playing it after any newer album.
DB level is really low over all
Needs to be remastered badly this and the first album.


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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:16:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
You seriously cant judge an album by the lenth thats fuckin ridiculous.

this comment is just fundamentally misguided. the importance of album lengths is hella underrated.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:23:21 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Don-Barzini
No it isn't you retard

Illmatic is considered one of the greatest albums of all time and its 39 minutes

Wrath Of The Math > The Sun Rises In The East

And songs for ladies never went away, you just listen to rappers that don't have any ladies buying their albums

Most of you faggots can't even handle a song with a R&B artist on the hook

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:24:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
why is don wigging out so hard today? first, it was the fab/jada thread, now he's in here.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:24:23 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
album length is definitely a factor for me. maybe not necessarily the number of tracks, but the overall length matters for sure. just because i like an artist doesn't mean i want to listen to them for 80 minutes straight. i think some artists are better in smaller doses, especially those that don't switch up their style often enough. you really don't think someone saying that an album drags on is valid criticism? i'm sure any artist would want to keep the listener engaged throughout the duration of the project.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:27:18 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
i never said this was better than illmatic. i kno jeru is no freck billionaire or fred the godson but ya kno.


thers that


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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:29:56 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
Why not just listen to what you want to listen to and skip the rest?
Not every song was made for you
Im always suprised by songs other people like on albums I think are garbage.
I agree sometimes its too much but havent you ever went back and revisted those skipped tracks and found a gem you had the whole time?
It happens.
Some albums you just listen to the same 2-3 songs or even just one song and never listen to the whole album

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:31:04 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
now u kno i cant skip things. my ocd wont let me. it feel incomplete. i only skip songs wen i make mixes or best ofs. its weird but i cant.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:32:40 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Don-Barzini
Bringin up Illmatic was in response to 88, about album lengths

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:33:11 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
Oh....so it's a mental thing.
I see...

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if u trimmed down all those early no limit cds literally in half and instead of 18-20 songs it had 10-11 they would all be amazing.


someone like meyhem lauren needs a short album cuz that flow gets fucking old.



i look at number of songs wen its like 25-30 but its not that like tippi says, its run time. cuz alot of instro albums have 30 to 35 songs and ther only a minute and half a piece.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:36:30 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
because even if you skip those songs, they're still part of the album. if you're comparing one album to another, you have to compare the albums as a whole. that's what is happening here, the sun rises is being compared to wrath of the math. my overall opinion on an album is based on how i feel about every track, not just the ones i like.

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posted Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:37:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Bringin up Illmatic was in response to 88, about album lengths

uhh, but i prefer shorter albums. thanks for confirming what i said about album lengths, i guess. *shrugs

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I mean 15 tracks just doesnt seem like alot of songs to me thats like a normal album you start getting up to like 18-19-20 songs it starts to wear thin.
Melvin Flynt by NORE is a good example
Good production but his flow voice and cadence are pretty boring that album has like 18 songs and alot of skits without those it woud have flowed alot better

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but he ain't wannna make music, his pop's just died

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One of the classics that got me into hip-hop

Would out this up there with smiff and wessun- dash shinin

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Jungle Music is the best primo beat he has made

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Alway thought can't stop tbe prophet track was wack as fuck, really annoying sample.

Then wrath of tbe math he decides to do a sequel to the wack song which was even wacker with an even more annoying sample that goes 'yep yep'.
Apart from that sun rises is an incredible album.

Worth noting that the afu ra track on sun has as superb but the next version on wrath was weak

I heard Jeru slept with premoes sister and that's why they fell out and Jeru gets drunk and ends up playing himself

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yo peet

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You must be joking saying Lupe isn't as good as him, ..No one and I mean no one has ever had him in their top 10 or 20. But Lupe is always brought up as the goat

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^Lupe is no intricate goat he is such a simple mc I think he only appeals to those with low iq's

he is coat

corniest of all time


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Underrated album, should of got a lot more attention.
Really dope & I like his style, he still making music? Easily one of the best albums of the 90's.

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breathcontrol- I was at that show at SOBs. GREAT show.

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who the fuck do you think you are with this piece of shit post?

running on about jerus lyrics and comparing them to syrup on pancakes like some half-assed blogger reviewing music

fuck outta here of course this is a classic and you are a herb

eat shit faggot who made this guy mod

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