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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:22:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask


hes tryin to charge $25 for both these digital EP's. haha

check out HHB!

check and balance system on prices in effect.

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Loewi

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:24:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
They leaked? SMH

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:25:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^YES! HHB.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:27:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Remember kids. Stealing is wrong

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:27:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^not to say its all about leaks. support is best and ill buy one of his projects soon i predict. haha

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:29:04 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
its not stealing its the universe. money is illusion.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:30:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
They any good? I'm not beat for D/Ling albums anymore unless it was anticipated shit like the Meyhem. These heads need to put their shit up on Spotify.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:32:24 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^theres major tracks on all of them. its a solid addition to fahims catalogue that we didnt even get to digest yet.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:34:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^i caught that-just too high. haha

fahims SDL is all dope.

crimeapple cant be fahim.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:36:27 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Yea i get annoyed having to D/L and unzip files then restart my phone to access the files. Just put the fucking shit on Spotify.

Spotify is the best thing to happen to music since the CD.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:42:16 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^cloudz is good when the grid is up. haha

you got a faraday cage?

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:44:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
No idea what you're talking bout so ill just answer by saying 'I dunno'.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:52:15 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
You have to restart your phone when you unzip your files? I never have to do that. My phone is a Samsung S7 Edge

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:54:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
spotify is like a cloud. what if an EMP knocks the grid out and theres no power for weeks or months- do you have a back up of digital files inside a electromagnetic proof faraday cage? and electronics in there too?

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:56:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Nah Loewi for some reason the album doesn't show up on my phones music player after i unzip it until i restart the phone. I got a Galaxy S6.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 9:59:34 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
Might need to download a different music player app but not sure

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 10:00:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Ehhhh there's just something about streaming an album on Spotify that enhances the listening experience as opposed to D/L, unzip, music player.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 10:02:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
not ass hard as lugging your old ass down to the non existant crimeapple store? hah

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 10:04:24 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
LOL at these perfect album covers looking like men jerking off while set on fire.

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 10:08:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Fuck yeah, leak!

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 10:14:58 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
The covers are from Street Fighter when you get a "perfect"

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posted Monday, October 16, 2017 11:49:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for LEX718
Actually from when you get hit wig a yoga flame from dhalsim. But yeah, that's what the perfect signifies. A flawless victory.

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:01:26 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Loewi
^Word, I haven't played Street Fighter since the 90's at a family friends house, but I recognized the image

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 2:19:01 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
so can someone provide an unbiased opinion on these two EPs?

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:27:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Kupiaj
Loewi should know.
Metralleta is a very very dope debut EP.
If they're in the same vein pow pow.

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:31:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
damn, dude's first EP's and y'all stealing it already...smh

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:55:49 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
there dope but not worth $25 for digital. lol

a new artist charging that for an EP deserves to be pirated.

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:01:25 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
no mask, how do they compare to metraletta? better? worse? about the same?

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:11:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
the fact that u cant stream either of them is bullshit

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:26:29 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
yep. $25 for something you can't even get a taste of beforehand? nah. leaks ftw.

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 6:09:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^there about the same 88. dope and worth checking for sure. only checked them once though but theres a variety of beat styles and the production is solid. he has strong moments lyrically-some more average moments. listening again tonight.

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:12:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
No Mackelmore Feature????

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:13:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
is the coverart lazy and horrible for a reason. ive d/led god awful instro tapes with more effort in the artwork than this shit.

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^^ LOL... Yo I dig homies music, but yea he has to work on getting his cover art on point. Especially when it comes to copping physical copies.

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:43:35 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
if they not "worth" $25 for a digital, what s it worth exactly and how do people get to decide this? cuz if you ask "people", eveeyone gonna say $5 for everything, nobody wants to pay for anything anymore, let's keep it a buck

...but why do artists like CRIME not deserve that price? ...asking for myself

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:16:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
come on man, $5 is less than most would pay and you know it. i don't think a digital album should be more than a dollar per track, and i'm willing to bet that 99% of people would agree on that because it's the accepted standard for digital music. if an artist decides to increase that price just because they feel like it, then of course people are going to have a problem with it. usually when the price of something goes up, there's a reason for it. shortage of supply, something is old/out of print, increased manufacturing costs, etc. digital files are nothing, just bits of data. it's not tangible, there's nothing to look at, you can't really put it on display. combine that with the fact that you can't even preview the album beforehand and it becomes straight up insulting. i've seen people compare this to someone buying a painting, or someone buying rare/limited sneakers, but in both of those cases you know what you're buying before you buy it. how can you expect people to blindly spend their money on something they don't even know if they'll enjoy just for the purpose of supporting an artist? movies have trailers, you can flip through a book before you buy it... this is like if you were at an auction and a painting was being sold that was completely covered up, except it's not a van gogh piece it's some new artist you've never heard before

i've been saying from the beginning that my problem with this business model is that it sets a precedent and encourages others to do the same, and we're already seeing that happen. here we have a brand new artist taking a page from the dump gawd playbook, selling two of his first projects for $25 each. i just cant bring myself to support this shit lol, 12 digital tracks for $50 is ridiculous to me, but if you think it's reasonable then go for it lol.

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:28:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
also call me crazy but i really dig the minimalistic cover art on these two projects

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:29:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
i'm indifferent to the perfect covers, which is a step up from calling metraletta's cover hella wack.

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:33:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
yeah it's kinda funny that the only project of his that you can actually get a physical copy of is the one with the bad album cover.

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 2:16:31 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for technosapien36
All 3 of his EPs are dope. Buck Dudley is a beast of a producer.

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 9:37:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
tippi, everything you typed makes sense, and i would even say i agree, but "accepted standard"? where can i read/see this? because music been $1/track since forever, when can music adjust for inflation? why can't it be $2 per track now in 2017? everything has gone up, why can't music?

...and i agree, if someone doesn't agree, simply don't buy/support it. but buying something on the strength that he a dope artists and you kinda know what his music sound like isn't all that peculiar

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 9:47:16 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for LEX718
When you take out the cost of production for digital music (it costs close to nothing to host and there is no physical manufacturing involved), the ease/low cost of setting up a serviceable, digital home studio in comparison to what it used to cost to record, the ease of accessing music via streaming and pirating as well as the low demand that creates for digital music the cost of music as a retail product would actually go down. But a lot of sites have upped the price slightly to something like 1.11 per track. But an artist has the right to charge whatever they want for their intellectual property. Only problem with that is a lot of it is sample based, so if they ever get pinched, it might come back to bite them. Think of Fahim or Mach making 10 sales at 1K a piece. If someone gets wind of an uncleared sample and tries to sue them, it may actually be worth pursuing as they made some decent money off of it.

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:02:29 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
usually when the price of something goes up, there's a good reason for it. this is a new artist selling a 6 song project for 25 dollars just because they feel like it. like lex said, the manufacturing costs have gone down and it's cheaper/easier to record music, so what's the excuse for these 6 digital files to cost as much as a 2xLP vinyl album from any other artist, which will most likely come with a code to download the album as well? if every single album was 50 dollars instead of 12 and you couldn't hear the album before you bought it, people just wouldn't buy music. like i said before, i just don't like the precedent this sets or the mentality that it perpetuates.

also, it's one thing for a price of something to go up in tiny increments but if you go for 10 dollars to 1000 for a project like fahim/mach of course people are going think it's ridiculous. that's a 9900% increase.

but buying something on the strength that he a dope artists and you kinda know what his music sound like isn't all that peculiar

he's a dope artist based on the one project you heard from him before, but that doesn't mean that everything he puts out is going to be great. i'm sure you could think of a hundred artists that put out promising debut/sophmore albums and then fell off afterwards. there's always a chance that it could suck, or that it will be different from the artists previous work and you won't like it. that's the whole point of multiple singles being released before an album comes out, it gives you an idea of what the album will sound like as a whole. if an artist doesn't offer a preview of the album, or even a tracklist, i view that as the artist not being confident enough in their work and relying on people to buy it blindly because they don't believe they would have otherwise. that's just the way i see it, if you feel differently that's cool but there's no way i could ever bring myself to support that because it's shady to me. you'd think that as a new artist you would want as many people to hear your music as possible so your fanbase will grow and you'll get more exposure, especially if an artist truly believes they're the greatest rapper ever. if people keep buying these projects it just keeps encouraging the artists to keep testing the waters by pricing their music higher and higher, i honestly wouldn't be surprised if the next crimeapple album was $100 digital only with no tracklist available.

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:40:01 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
At Tippi:
So if most albums are $10-11.99 and your saying 99 cents a track so every album would only have 11 songs on it?
Most albums have like 12-13 songs some have 15 17 songs so those albums should be sold for the same price?
Seems kinda backwards considering the sungle tracks are 99 cents so it would cost more to download the album track by track as opposed to buying the whole album?

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:41:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
Everyones like this dudes business model sucks but never give an example of a better one.
Put that 8 year biz degree to work and drop some knowledge on us PLEEEASE!

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 2:26:44 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
so would you feel better if for each EP he let one single fly for free as a preview? or would it not matter? i'm just trying to gauge people's philosophy on shit, so i'm genuienly asking out of wanting to know

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 2:46:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
At Tippi:
So if most albums are $10-11.99 and your saying 99 cents a track so every album would only have 11 songs on it?
Most albums have like 12-13 songs some have 15 17 songs so those albums should be sold for the same price?


lol, it was just an example man. i never said that every single album should cost the same regardless of the number of tracks, that would be ridiculous. i'm just saying, if an album has 12 tracks you can expect it to cost about 12 dollars which means you're paying a dollar per track.

Seems kinda backwards considering the sungle tracks are 99 cents so it would cost more to download the album track by track as opposed to buying the whole album?

that's literally how it works right now though, go look at any album on bandcamp with more than 12 tracks. buying the tracks individually costs more than buying the album outright.


Everyones like this dudes business model sucks but never give an example of a better one.

people have multiple times lol, for example selling expensive limited physical copies for the hardcore fans but still having the music available to be streamed, or at least purchase digitally for a lower price. if people can actually hear the dude's music, they might be more inclined to spread the word and also purchase those physicals in the future. just my opinion though.


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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 2:47:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
so would you feel better if for each EP he let one single fly for free as a preview? or would it not matter? i'm just trying to gauge people's philosophy on shit, so i'm genuienly asking out of wanting to know

well there is one single available for preview from both eps, but i think there should be more especially since you get a bonus track when you purchase each of the the eps, so that gives people incentive to to buy them. i personally still wouldn't buy the ep unless i could stream the whole thing, but it someone else did it would make sense to me. there's never been an album that I've liked 75% of the songs on and didn't buy, but there's a ton of albums i would have never bought if i hadn't been able to hear them beforehand and that's kinda where i'm coming from with all of this.

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:03:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Paper Piff And Polo
yeah no doubt

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 10:19:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
^them Ep's are that work..i support CRIMEapple

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People still use spotify ? What is this ? 2013?

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