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Platform28

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 1:14:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Platform28
Just having a discussion with a friend about how long an album released by an artist should be... this of course covers all categories of music... personally I feel an album should be no longer than 60mins... 1hr of music just enough to leave the listener wanting more... anything more I feel exhausts the listener and is over saturated.. a good comfy timeframe for an album is 40 to 60mins long... what u guys think??

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 1:42:51 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
Depends on the album obvioisly. Why have a rigid set time limit. Lol when the time is not the main factor in what makes a long album listenable. Its the content that determines that. Pete rock and c.l. Mecca and the soul brother is perfect and is 77 minutes.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 1:47:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Platform28
Very true... those PR & CL Smooth albums are over 60mins, but as great as they were, I felt it was too much material for a project.. soundtracks can be over 60mins, cause they are compilations, but albums I feel should be under 60mins... again, less is more just like dj premier beats! As an artist don't u want the listener to want more? it's like going on a date with a girl, u don't do everything on the first date, u have to leave things for the 2nd and 3rd date right? might be a bad metaphor, but I hope u feel me?

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 2:07:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
You have a point but once again its not so much the duration as it is about the content. Some can be longer. Its also subjective and some need or prefer shorter.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 2:44:11 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for NoHeadlights
You and your friends sound like dorks

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 2:46:05 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
LOL NHL

SC1989 Bait Thread Re: Damu - Vignettes

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 3:13:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
i agree big time. higher forms of music such as jazz clock in at 45-60 mins. rap is unbearable at 80 mins, fucking ne rapper.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 3:15:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for SC1989
Depands if you the skills Damu has.
AOTY Album of the last 7 years.
Top 5 producers

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 3:16:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for SC1989
*have

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 3:18:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
damu dropped 3 hrs and 15 mins of bullshit sci. fuckouttahere. and if ur dropping a beat tape with no switches or story to ur music (an actual instrumental) each beat shouldnt exceed 2 mins. its obnoxious and repetitive. like a bad maury povich skit. "you dont know me you dont kno me, wateva wateva" while clapping ur hands like a jabroni.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 3:36:29 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
really depends on the artist and the type of album. if it's a producer comp with different rappers on every track like that quakers comp from 2012, then i'm fine with it being an hour long. i think concept albums that are longer are fine too as long as it's executed well. for a standard album with the same rappers on every track perfect length is 45-50 mins imo.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 4:07:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
^^^ an essay is a brewin

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 4:08:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
from who lol, your response was just as long as mine

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 5:30:36 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Platform28
Anyone in entertainment knows that you should always leave ur audience wanting more, look at movies, sitcoms, talkshows ect... hence my point... a double disk album, or an album over 60mins doesn't do that.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 6:57:39 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
its hard for me not to be rigid. it seems wen i hit the 60-65 min mark i grow tired of hearing the same dude. thats why i actually DO like producer comps cuz atleast its a ton of diff people even if it is 70-80 mins.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 7:08:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
A lot of classics are over 60 minutes so.... mecca and the soul brother is perfect and needs no trimming.

Raekwon- Ob4cl is 69 min
Public enemy- fear of a black planeó63min
Showbiz and a.g.- runaway slave-69min
Diamond d- stunts, blunts and hip hop-66 min

None of the above need trimming.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 7:12:23 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Grafh
The majority of the greatest albums ever created, spanning all genres, very rarely last over 50 minutes, which personally I would say between 40 and 50 minutes is the absolute perfect running time for a project. Anything over an hour and I can almost guarantee it's going to lose my attention at some point.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 7:18:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Platform28
EXACTLY!! for everyone saying over 1hr it looses your enthusiasm and attention span! It becomes too much of the artist, and we aren't left wanting more!! Some of the classics that NO MASK mentioned are right, however i'm sure most didn't sit the entire 70 or 80mins straight to listen to it, it was listened to in different parts, because sitting for 80mins for everyone to listening to an album is far too much!

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 7:21:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
graph knows wats up. i think people forget. wen ther like this is like an ep and its 14 tracks and 40 mins. some of the early rap albums that are great are 45-50 mins long.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 7:40:04 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
i remember people specifically complaining bout mic tyson by sean p and saying it was too short and now every lick balls for that album and says its one of his best. and it is, cuz its to the point and not some gone with the wind album.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 7:40:35 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
*everyone

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 9:14:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
I actually agree that 35 to 45 or 50 is a great length for most artists projects but im saying its possible to do longer listenable albums. One of the first short ass albums that was mega dope and had so much replay the tape got worn was the allaholiks 21 and over. Clocking in at 36minutes -shorter then illmatic, another short classic.

Has to be super dope and special to be long and fully listenable.

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posted Saturday, November 04, 2017 10:11:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
The GOAT album was 70 minutes long so this thread is null and void...

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 1:39:41 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Lol at the goat album, get off the downers

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Platform28

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 2:50:56 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Platform28
exactly marshall mathers lp was far from being the goat album, good lord, soo many skippable tracks on it, and not really a hip hop record, just a mainstream rapper, spitting over watered down commercial beats, that aren't even hip hop. if u want an eminem hip hop album, look to INFINITE!

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 4:42:15 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Blanco
60 minutes is perfect!
I can also f with 45-55 minute projects.
Don't mind also 65-70 minutes IF quality is there.
What I can't stand is people calling their 30 minute EPs albums... and that trend is somewhat growing these days.. most albums are between 30 to 40 and that is cheating to me

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 8:47:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
I hate albums on 60 minutes. Foh Barbra Walters ass rapers no thx too mainstream Iím more of a Democrazy Now! Kinda guy fuck 60 minutes albums show me the pbs news hour.

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:18:21 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
MMLP > Every album named in this thread so far.

Also this modern day classic clocks in at 76 minutes and there isn't one god damn skippable track on it...

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:41:29 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Dyme Secta
A 43 minute project is a decent bench mark. No more than 11 songs per project.
Concepts like Albums and EPs are old industry jargon. Quality Post.

- dymesecta

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 4:22:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
go to Hell clock

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 4:40:35 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
The fact you took extra time to capitalize the 'H' in Hell is impressive.

This classic is 75 minutes long...

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 5:05:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for CAChri$t(IE)
lmao it autocorrected

Donít go to Hell tho ilu

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 5:08:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
so the answer is NO. too many great classics proved decades ago that over an hour can be great.

cant wait for the next thread.

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 5:31:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
lol at cheating, whos keeping score jabroni?

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 5:41:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
this ties into wats makes an ep and wat makes an album than thers the street album and "mixtape" inbetween. i dont give a fuck if it counts or not but my end of the yr list has eps on it if ther arent 10 albums worth my glorious ear. fuck yall

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posted Sunday, November 05, 2017 6:04:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^ thats your solo EP- "the glorious ears of picky old pappy". all fahim leftover beats. haha

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Platform28

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posted Monday, November 06, 2017 6:08:21 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Platform28
I thought iLLmatic by Nas was a perfect example of album length. It was just enough to give the listener enough material and wanting more clocking in at 40mins in length. No BS, all gems!

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Agree. Over an hour 95% of the time is too long. I can think of a few examples that break that mold but overall that's a general rule of thumb.

This especially true with the newest artists. Mixtapes, even when they are free, become UNBEARABLE coasting past 60 minutes.

I would rather here a 25 minute EP of even the most talented newcomer.

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posted Monday, November 06, 2017 9:52:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
20 years ago it was more the norm for an album to be over 60 minutes. But in the instant gratification, Soundcloud/YouTube/Bandcamp era we're living in today, most people have shorter attention spans. As a result, shorter releases tend to be more favorable then longer ones because there's 10 new releases each week.

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Platform28

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posted Tuesday, November 07, 2017 6:22:30 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Platform28
at thathippyguy and clockworx
yeah totally, plus the industry moves soo fast cause of the exposure of everything online these days, back then there was less exposure thus people would want longer albums cause that's all they had to connect with the artist, well that and magazines... but yeah 60 mins is too much in one project, I agree thathippyguy! nuff respect!

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