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wicked 22.2

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posted Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:32:48 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wicked 22.2   Click Here to Email wicked 22.2
no $ menu 3 yet

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josieandthepussyfarts

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posted Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:40:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for josieandthepussyfarts
what makes you think he knows what he is doing? just because someone makes good music doesn't mean they have good business sense.

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wicked 22.2

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posted Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:44:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wicked 22.2   Click Here to Email wicked 22.2
lol that quote is daffyaffy

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wicked 22.2

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posted Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:56:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wicked 22.2   Click Here to Email wicked 22.2
Totally he's right

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 12:52:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
when you could be using that time to make even more money

he's not making more money though, that's what i was saying this whole time lol. it wouldn't require any more effort than he's already putting in. he's in it for the bag of money, instead of the BAGS. short term - half as long, twice as bright. you're making excuses for him but ultimately it's all just speculation, i've given you examples from multiple different mediums of limited edition items selling despite the cheaper or more readily available alternatives. i'm sure SP 90s could tell you all about his experiences with limited edition vinyl selling out within seconds of being available. and yeah i'm sure mach is aware of what he's doing as well, but you could say that about literally any decision that anyone has ever made. that doesn't always mean it's the best course of action. i'm sure hitler knew what he was doing and had his own justifications for it. mach wouldn't have to rely on music as a lifelong career either, because those albums would still sell after he quits making music, just like every other artist. why wouldn't someone want that extra steady income?

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Harry Angel

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:01:35 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Harry Angel
I reckon a lot of it is BS. Their instagram posts with an easily photoshopped pic of someone paying a grand for an album etc. Half the time I reckon it's just their own money, paying themselves and sucking people into the hype. To clarify, I'm not saying people aren't copping this stuff, But I think a lot of it is smoke and mirrors.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:32:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
Making more money doing something ELSE in the meantime. Maybe rap isn't his only source of income.

that's what you're going with loewi? come on lol, in what world would make make MORE money if he quit rapping by not selling the albums he already made? he already put in the time and effort, so if he's really in it for the money why would he want to make less of it? he could start crocheting or doing charicatures on a new jersey boardwalk or start selling the scented soaps he makes on etsy, while also still getting money from music with minimal effort. i really don't see where you're going with this at all. even if you want to use this filmsy argument for mach, what about fahim who is doing the same thing and has repeatedly stated the all he cares about is being the best rapper? does that sound like someone who is interested in "pursuing other passions in the future" to you?

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:29:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
man, you short term thinking n*ggas. jesus christ.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:31:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
i don't agree that he's making as money as he can right now, that's what this whole discussion has been about lol. why would you want to support an artist like that anyone, who just wants to pull a fast one over on people and then get out of dodge? someone who will take that bag of money and disappear into the night? usually when people support an artist it's because they want them to continue doing what they're doing. regardless, he could easily sell HBO digitally RIGHT NOW and make more money. it would take him 5 minutes to throw that up on bandcamp. if he really wanted as much money as possible, why isn't he selling physicals of this new project? why didn't he do the same thing he did with HBO here, especially now that there's a buzz and people are confident enough in his ability that they're willing to blindly cop a $200 they've never heard before?

Fahim lowered his prices on the last 3 projects, but there's no way to know if it's going to stay that way forever. he could have just done that to get back into people's good graces and is planning in incrementally increasing the price of each future project.

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:44:33 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
if he really wanted as much money as possible, why isn't he selling physicals of this new project? why didn't he do the same thing he did with HBO here, especially now that there's a buzz and people are confident enough in his ability that they're willing to blindly cop a $200 they've never heard before?

or why not press more copies of hbo? it's like these guys don't want more money, lol. it's genuinely stupid.

with these high digital prices, mach's preventing potential for any new fans. sure, the mystique of it all was cool with hbo, but that gimmick is over. he's putting all his revenue opportunity hopes on the die hard fans that are willing to pay the high amounts. that's something old artists do who have a big established base of die hard fans. that's not something new artists do, who are trying to get bigger and have longer careers. it's backward thinking.

how are you going to get new fans, if you don't allow them to hear your shit? not just new fans, new collaborators too. dj premier's not going to work with you, unless someone tells him to check you out first. no one's going to tell him to check you out, unless your shit's available for those people (and everyone) to hear.

this "the strategy's working RIGHT NOW" argument is really shortsighted and basic. every time a fan buys into this high digital price strategy, they're encouraging mach to keep doing this strategy, which, consequently, prevents other fans from hearing mach's music now and later, which, consequently, is preventing mach's fanbase from growing, which, consequently, is preventing mach's career from lasting longer.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:46:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
^ this guy gets it

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:48:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
who cares about making $50 grand this year, if you don't make shit for every remaining year of your life afterwards? a steady income is far more valuable than getting a one time, big dollar cash in.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:54:55 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
no it wouldn't unless he specifically said that it would never be released digitally at any point in time. using that logic, if he chose to release physicals for this album it would be a slight to all the people who bought it digitally. again, why would that matter if all he cares about is the money? it just doesn't add up.

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:57:42 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
He didn't put out HBO digitally because it would be a slight to those who spent money on the CD

yeah, he fucked himself over there. fahim did too with the two dump legend releases. even if he's seen the error of his ways, and is now taking a smarter path by charging only $11.11 with new releases, he can't do anything about dump legend 1 and 2. the fans will never hear it, unless he leaks it on soundcloud. either those albums will never be heard by the majority of his fans (which will piss off the majority of his fanbase), or he'll leak it to soundcloud to please the majority of his fanbase (but that will piss off the die hard fans who invested big bucks in it). no matter what, it's a lose-lose. he's jeopardized his relationship with the die hard fans who invested by putting them and himself in a catch-22 situation with these high pricing strategies. i bet he'll either release them on soundcloud or never mention them again, and act like they didn't happen, so people don't ask him about them. that is, if he truly has seen the error of his ways, and will continue to have reasonable pricing from here on out.

Anyway, all of this started by people saying I'm taking money out of Mach's pockets. Even if that were true, it's all about consent, so please don't shame me for shelling out the dough.

that's a bullshit copout.

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:07:30 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
no, i got your point, loewi. i just don't buy the argument that he's trying to get "fast money" right now to go pursue some other career. first, because it seems like you're just making that up as a way to justify in your own mind why he's acting the way he is, basing your whole arguments on "what-ifs" that aren't really that solid of foundations. second, he's on the cusp of getting a far wider audience in the underground, via (for example) collaborating with the alchemist and knxwledge. why would he leave his rap career, when it's about to potentially blow up? i don't think it will blow up, because he keeps getting in his own way with this pricing stupidity, but that's beside the point. if your boss is about to promote you and give you a big raise, that's not usually the time where you go, "well, i've been thinking about joining the gay jamaican circus actually, so i choose to reject your offer, and pursue that instead". instead, that's usually the time when you say, "well, this seems like a very profitable opportunity, and i think i'll see this through, before making any rash decisions".

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:10:01 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
How 88?

go watch inglorious basterds, and pay attention to the christoph waltz character. you're making the same argument here that he made in the third act.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:11:22 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
even if that's true and he actually said it would NEVER be released digitally at any point, then that means he lied since he put it on soundcloud so people could stream it. i bet he never mentioned that when he was selling those cds.

either way, you said he just wants fast money so why would this matter anyway? he would make a ton from selling HBO digitally and then he could go "pursue his other passions". he would gain more fans than he'd lose, and he could put out another limited number of cds for his next album and make even more money even faster. also let me get this straight, you bought this digitally for $187 being 100% confident that a physical copy would be released for the same price later? are you planning on getting that as well, and if not why the hell would you go for the option that loses all value once you buy it? jesus christ lol.

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dj rolo

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:15:49 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
i'm done with this whole subject...too much chopping it up over shit that don't mean anything...fkn waste of time. i'm done...you like it buy it, you don't like it...don't buy it. tired of the whining and complaining and analysis and theories and hatin and trash talk and paragraphs about what he should and shouldn't do...peace

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:24:07 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
Look, all I just want is the music, not people shaming me for contributing to the lack of availability. If that's the only way I can the music, so be it. I'm not the first one who bought the album anyway. I didn't set the precedent. The others before me did

lol, this is terrible.

in this evening's ughh.com performance of titanic, regular user, loewi, will be taking on the billy zane role for us.

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88

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:25:24 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for 88
anyway, let's move on. fahim's new dump goat is alright. not his best project, by far.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:30:38 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
i don't think that's the only way you'd be able to hear the music though, it was just the only way you'd be able to hear the music IMMEDIATELY. what do you think would have happened if NO ONE bought HBO for the original price? do you think he would have just sat on them forever, or do you think he would have lowered the price until it sold? think about it. i doubt he would have spend that much time and effort on a project for it to go unheard, regardless of what he might say. it seems like he's holding fans hostage by saying "you suckers better buy these albums no matter what i charge for them, otherwise you're not getting any more". doesn't sound like a healthy artist/fan relationship to me at all. you might not have been the first person to contribute to this, but literally every person other than the first one to buy a copy of HBO could say the same thing lol. i'm not the one shaming you anyway, it's your money and you can do whatever you want with it. i just wanted to make sure you're aware of what you're supporting.

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:33:09 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
yeah i'm on the same boat as y'all at this point, it's obvious that this is going nowhere lol. the people who bought these projects will try and justify it until the end of time, and mach will be laughing and hauling that bag of cash all the way to bank, never to be heard from again.

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wicked 22.2

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:04:30 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wicked 22.2   Click Here to Email wicked 22.2
Attn Tippi & 88 will you guys throw down for a copy of dump roster if we can get 9 people?

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dr.proF

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:22:23 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dr.proF   Click Here to Email dr.proF
For what it's worth rolo, i think all of the talk is good for mach and fahim. Any publicity is good publicity. i have a love hate relationship with these discussions but they keep me cominng back.

Frankly the ughh community seldom has much more to talk about. Ughh is slowly dying and thats what these dudes are up against. A dead market riddled with bootleggers

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ern

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:39:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for ern
if your willing to pay the price go ahead do whatever you want with your money and support

if your not willing to pay the price then don't buy it.

if you can download it for free, then download it. if a link is not online then you can't download it

if you want to buy and download it go ahead

faggits

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wicked 22.2

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:44:05 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wicked 22.2   Click Here to Email wicked 22.2
Ok I think ern is in. We have 4! Let's get 5 more!

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ern

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 8:02:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for ern
lol

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wicked 22.2

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posted Wednesday, September 06, 2017 8:18:02 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for wicked 22.2   Click Here to Email wicked 22.2
Mach just sent me an email titled "sent" with a picture of my dollar menu 3 all boxed up. 😃; Fuck yeah can't wait to hear it! I would give Mach all my money but shit I am broke as fuck now and I'm looking to cop a bunch of rare vinyl so there goes all my dough. Shout out to my mortgage! ilu boo.

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Heavy365

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posted Saturday, September 09, 2017 2:58:42 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
This will never leak smh

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'95 Source Awards

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:48:36 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for '95 Source Awards
YOU ARE GOD

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dj rolo

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:44:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dj rolo
damn cats straight violating ...smh

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GPT Godfather

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:44:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for GPT Godfather
On youtube as well. Embed not working on phone but it's here either way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2r14NgUBPI

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:42:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:45:42 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
I'm shocked this shit is up on YouTube so soon after it dropped. Probably because it was a digital release whereas HBO, which never leaked, was a physical only release. Obviously you can rip a CD to digital but it take more time then uploading an already digital album onto YouTube.

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:09:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for dr.prOf   Click Here to Email dr.prOf
Nice

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Heavy365

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:22:16 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
Why erase the link its leaked get over it

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:24:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
all ther music hits youtube in less than a week.

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:24:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Cause if i don't delete it then ill feel the wrath of Quest for allowing it on here. Only links allowed on here are OOP or free albums.

Regardless, any asshole with novice internet knowledge knows where to find the link.

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:26:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
all ther music hits youtube in less than a week.

HBO was the only one that never did. Only time will tell with Dollar Menu 3 and Dump Legend.

Halfway through this and it's DAFFY. Not as cohesive an album as HBO but better music.

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GPT Godfather

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:48:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for GPT Godfather
Listened earlier on earbuds at work and couldn't pay much attention. Listening now on monitors at home, sounding like some heat!

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Heavy365

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:22:19 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
After spinning this twice this project aint fucking with dump gawd hommy edition glad I aint spend $187 on it lol

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Heavy365

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:25:19 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
And way too many feat's smh..mach need to do a album with camouflage alc daringer and roc marci on the boards shit would be a instant classic #facts

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Heavy365

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:26:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
kinda disappointed with DUMPMEISTER hopefully dollar menu 3 is better

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Heavy365

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:51:17 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
Loewi why is it Fucked that the album leaked?

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:52:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
yeah it's not even really a leak if the albums been out for two weeks lol.

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Heavy365

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:54:22 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
trust me tippi lol the internet always prevails

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Heavy365

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:57:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
Yea sandu is nice from what I've heard on the dollar menu 1 and 2

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tippi dink

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:57:31 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink   Click Here to Email tippi dink
yeah every album (that doesn't cost 1000 dollars) is going to be uploaded to the internet after it's released, it's to be expected. it's only a leak if it gets put on the internet before the official release date.

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Heavy365

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posted Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:58:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
I want to hear dollar menu 3 so badly waiting for the internet to come through again lol

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Heavy365

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posted Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:02:24 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Heavy365
To be honest I don't really think this leak hurts mach if anything it helps expand his fan base so when reloads on his new projects he can get a couple new buyers each time .. internet helps his network more then he really knows #facts

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posted Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:40:22 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
dumpmeister leaked on HHB.

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