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Mental Patient UGHH Artist

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 2:44:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Kap! That post was fake, but it makes me lugh so much I don't care if ppl think it's real.

I never tried crystal. I was offered GHB several times around 1998 but said no.

2 of my boys g'd out bad.

I can say more about that business but I won't. And those that know the deal know the deal.


Back to Tupac. Everyone follows all these causes anti-Trump, Colin K, woman's sexual harrasment, gender equality in sports. Thats fine.

My main cause always - Crumple donates to help Torontos street kids.

However here I want to REMIND everyone that Tupac died so hip hoppers can live. It is almost Biblical to say but I bet his death prevented and will prevent other's deaths.

Heck! I even say keep squabbles to message boards!

Not the fucking streets. Let criminals deal with that not hip hop artists who convert criminals!

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:17:31 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Bluestratoss
Word the fuck up Crump, not a year goes by without me saying a prayer in front of a candle, thankful to pac for laying down his life for me and all the other hiohopppers in leatherhead

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 7:35:14 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
I'm being for real Blue.

Can anyone add to this Pac conversation?

It's like no one cares what the fuck?

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Pureleaf

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:32:17 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Pureleaf
Crumple and his false idols.

Crumple, I'm not christian but I can't stand fake Christians who don't mind being preachy while also going against the book they claim to worship.

It's pretty obvious to me you took this tourist video fetishizing Tupac's death just as a justification for starting another thread where you get made fun of for three pages.

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:48:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Pureleaf - I believe in Christ and value what he represented.

I do not like organized religions.

I read the 5 holy books of the 5 major and enduring religions.

What inspires me are the truths interwoven in all of them. The same ones - family, competance, love etc.

If no one wants to talk 2Pac thwn I'll leave this thread alone.

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posted Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:50:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
thread needs more bald heads and fruit salads

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:20:08 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Daddy- I really didn't want this thread to turn into a joke.

Pac was a very well developed character by 25.

My question is did he go platinum while he was still alive or after?

At the end of the movie it says he did all of that while still living etc

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:22:59 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Why is that a question when you Google it

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 2:06:55 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Observe - word my bad. What I read was

Tupac
Networth while alive: about $100,00
Networth Today: $40 Million

The bulk of the money came after his death.

Rapper's like Jay Z, Puffy and Kanye know how to live quality lives.

Nas too from his instagram.

I hate to say it but alot of rappers learned alot about living well after 1997.

Even indie rappers.

But people with regular jobs can also do the same.

It sucks that Tupac died the way he did.

He had no kids and only his mother and they both left this earth, like angels.

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 3:05:48 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
"like angels"? jfc,they died like anybody else.Angels don't even mutherfucking die idiot.Talking about somethin you don't know anything about,big surprise.

Mark - it's you.=

https://www.undergroundhiphop.com/forums/readpost.asp?Forum=Common&WhichPage=1&QuestionID=2775866&SearchYear=2015

And 2pac didn't die for other people to live,he died because he decided to become a gangbanger in his mid twenties.

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 3:15:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Madkap - ya, like angels cause they came to earth, left their mark of greatness and left.

Treach even said Pac wasn't a gangster. He was an artist.

Suge on the on the other hand got arrested in 1987 Las Vegas for shooting some 3 times during a car jacking!

Suge's life is intense.

His new trial is a must go to for Jan 2018.

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:18:45 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dR.prOf   Click Here to Email dR.prOf
Motivational video

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:08:14 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Prof - word up thank you. What do you like about it?

I'm just grateful I made it to 35 years old in great health.

Be grateful guys!

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:29:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for dR.prOf   Click Here to Email dR.prOf
Hip hop history and ughh history in one brief shared time and place

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:19:04 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Gozer the Traveler
He had no kids and only his mother and they both left this earth, like angels

who's kids was those in his wraps ?

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 2:44:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Dr. Prof - word, thank you so much for that comment!

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posted Wednesday, October 18, 2017 2:46:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Goz - what, if he refered to them? Who knows if he had illegitimate kids. Officially he didn't have any.

Emcee wisw, with passion he killed the Dr. Dre produced Can't C me!

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posted Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:43:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for sp4rks
OMFG

This delusional fucker...........

Still here anoying as usual

Smh



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posted Friday, October 20, 2017 12:39:28 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Sp4ks - ya what?! I'm grateful to be alive, for my fam, and creative projects!

I live for quality moments!

Here's to more!
😺;📼;

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posted Friday, October 20, 2017 5:44:23 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for mAdkAp
What i'm trying to tell you is human beings do not become angels,they can't even be cherubs.They are just sheep.

Since you are such an expert you must know he jumped a Southside Crip a few hours before he was killed.

I wonder why he died ?????

Probably like some aliens with a UFO or something.

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posted Friday, October 20, 2017 2:46:50 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Madkap - ok you've got a point. He did wild out alot.

What is an angel? A spirit that guides you?

Spirits, energies, and frequencies in different dimensions that inspire?

On another note, what is everyone on ughh.com happy about today?

I'm happy about new people in my life and my new project that's top secret for now. Not a rapper collab. Just a project.

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posted Tuesday, October 31, 2017 3:47:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
I want to thank everyone for checking this video. I'd like to post the vid for the 3rd page and Pac's do for love video.

You know Dre oy produced 2 joints for Pac while he was alive?

Like how cool were they?

I know for sure Tupac showed alot of love to Dre on Can't see me.

I guess thats all that matters.

How much Pac gave.

I mean Dre did appear in a video and made a hit with Pac for California love which was great.

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posted Wednesday, November 01, 2017 2:06:51 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Bluestratoss
Model, california love was not made for pac, it was made for cube and dree but suge made dre shit his pants and hand it to pac

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posted Wednesday, November 01, 2017 2:47:58 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for KUSH12
this is nearly perfect. just needed some doot doot doot and a couple conway giggles towards the end.

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posted Wednesday, November 01, 2017 3:02:58 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Blue really?

I never felt that joint so much. It was different tho. I wonder what the budget was for the video. Looked expensive.

Kush - lol

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posted Wednesday, November 01, 2017 3:16:02 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for NoHeadlights
There's no way crumple cannot be tweakin and reply at this rate, shots crazy

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posted Thursday, November 02, 2017 2:22:34 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Bluestratoss
Hi model.
Yes it was for cube and dre, suge heard it and allocated pac.

The video was terrible, mad max concept which was lame.

Eye patch dre and pac looks like a poor broke knight

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posted Thursday, November 02, 2017 3:00:11 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
NoHeadlights - "There's no way crumple cannot be tweakin and reply at this rate, shots crazy"
- I don't do methamphetamine. I drink coffee like blue. I like Tim Horton's and Starbucks.
At home I make Folgers Classic Roast double double in a Biatali expresso thing.

Bluestratoss - Hey what's good Blue?

Yeah I never felt the video. But after reading the following article - it opened my eyes up now. You know your hip hop - about
how Suge got involved and how the track wasn't Pac's originally.

This is from complex.com but it's an excerpt from a book - Shea Serrano's , The Rap Year Book: The Most Important Rap Song From Every Year Since 1979, Discussed, Debated, and Deconstructed. I honestly LOVE this guys writing style and will check out his book!



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The first proper single of Tupacís career was "Brendaís Got a Baby" in 1991, and thatís kind of insane to think about, and itís insane in two different ways: (1) because of what it is about, and (2) because of what Tupac eventually came to represent in rap.

"Brendaís Got a Baby" is about an illiterate twelve-year-old girl who gets impregnated by her older cousin, secretly gives birth to the baby on a bathroom floor, puts the baby in a Dumpster, gets kicked out of her house, attempts to become a crack dealer, gets robbed, becomes a prostitute, then gets murdered. Itís as "socially conscious" a rap song as has ever been written.

The singles that followed either replicated the tone (though rarely to such extremes)
or spun in the other direction altogether. Over one very eager stretch of six months in 1993, he released "Holler If Ya Hear Me", a frustration anthem and his very best Public Enemy impersonation, followed by "Keep Ya Head Up", a female empowerment song, followed by "I Get Around", which is about having lots of sex with lots of females. The contradiction was an early indication of the kind of in-the-moment, emotionally reflective artist Tupac was, and would become, and thatís how we get to what Tupac came to represent.


Distilled down to its pith, the entirety of gangsta rap imagery is Tupac; he is the archetypal gangsta rapper, and he has come to stand in for any and all other rappers in the subgenre. Thatís an easy claim to make because he, in fact, perfected gangsta rap, but itís also slightly tricky. He was so convincing in the role that he effectively rendered all other portrayals obsolete, or, worse still, uncool. (Nearly) all of the images weíve come to associate with gangsta rap are images he presented. And the origination of that version of him was him on "California Love", when Dr. Dre stood back behind him in the Thunderdome and framed his mania, and it was so exciting and obvious when it happened.

♦;


"California Love" is a great song. Itís a funky, chirping, fever of noise, the sonic weirdness is boxed in by Roger Troutmanís robo charm, pummeled into acquiescence by Tupacís fury, and weighed and measured by Dreís steadiness. All three parts play perfectly together. Examined free of the context of Tupacís career, it would have lived a perfectly pleasant life, and likely even still managed to become critical to the rap genre.

But it arrived to an almost unfathomably perfect orchestra of circumstance, and so it is endlessly important today, and forever, on earth and in heaven and anywhere else they listen to rap. To wit:
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It was the first song Tupac released when he got out of prison in 1996, and that wouldíve been gigantic all by itself. But the insanity surrounding his court case at the time of his sentencing had grown his indestructible gangster myth tenfold, so Tupac getting out of prison was less him getting out of prison and more him rolling away the stone and stepping up out of the tomb.

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It was the first song from his new album, All Eyez on Me, which was coming behind Me Against the World, his most successful album to that point, commercially (it moved more than 3.5 million units) and critically ("Dear Mama"; see page 106).

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It was the first thing he delivered under Death Row, a label that was, at that moment, the biggest and baddest and most overwhelming in rap.

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It was produced by Dr. Dre.

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And his amazing film run from 1992 to 1994 (Juice, Poetic Justice, Above the Rim) stretched his name well beyond the parameters of just rap, and even just music.


You can imagine the sort of fervor that surrounded this song when it dropped. It was his biggest song figuratively, because of its commercial success, but also literally. Up to that point heíd mostly been an insular artist, with ideas and thoughts aimed in specific directions. ďCalifornia LoveĒ gave him the wide-screen treatment weíd watch the Notorious B.I.G. get later. It was a glimpse at what he was going to do as a proper superstar, and also pointed toward where Puff Daddy would eventually take rap.12

♦;

"California Love" was not originally Tupacís song. There are two conflicting stories on how he nabbed it. One comes from Chris "The Glove" Taylor, who claims he helped produce the track (though he received no credit for it), and the other from Death Rowís cofounder and former CEO Suge Knight, who is like if an angry rhino began morphing into a human and then stopped halfway through and so thatís just how he was stuck.

The parts that they quibble about are the parts youíd expect (Taylor says he helped piece together the track with Dr. Dre at his house, while Knight tells some overly complex story about a stylist wearing a leather suit and thatís where the Mad Max theme for the video came from, or something), but they both agree on one point: It belonged to Dr. Dre before it belonged to Tupac. Taylor says he and Dre made it at Dreís house during a get-together, and then Tupac showed up and was in the studio so he recorded a verse for it. Knight says that the song had been written for Dre, but since The Chronic had already been out, and since Tupacís album was on its way, Suge thought the song should go to Tupac. Thereís a moment during Sugeís explanation where he basically congratulates himself for not blatantly stealing the whole song by allowing Dre to remain on it, and itís easy to see how Suge eventually pile-drove Death Row into nothingness.

♦;

There are thirteen reasons you should visit California and celebrate California, according to Tupac and Dr. Dre in "California Love".

Good Reasons
1
Lots of opportunities for sex: If you are in charge of promoting tourism for your state, you should 100 percent include that your state has a higher sex rate per capita than other states, if that happens to be the case.

2
Bomb-ass hemp: "Bomb ass" is slang for "very good," and "hemp" is slang for "marijuana." I remember reading this thing about how when you want to add a new word to your vocabulary, you have to use it two times out loud, so Iíd recommend that here for you so that you can get comfortable saying this. For example, if your friendís mother passes away, you might try consoling him or her by commenting on the high quality of the event: "Susan, hi, I just want to say real quick that this is a bomb-ass funeral. Your mother, also bomb-ass, wouldíve been pleased."

3
Dance floors busy with bodies: "Ecclesiastes assures us . . . that there is a time for every purpose under heaven. A time to laugh . . . and a time to weep. A time to mourn . . . and there is a time to dance." óKevin Bacon, Footloose. Footloose is so much fun.

4
Hoochies, likely screaming: Hoochies who like to scream are better than, say, hoochies who like to stab, or hoochies who like to steal your identity.

5
Chucks: This is in reference to the Chuck Taylor Converse. Chucks are timeless.

6
Dark sunglasses and khaki suits: This seems a lot like something that a murderer would wear, because itís difficult to picture a sane person shopping in a store and asking where the khaki-suit section is. But dark sunglasses and khaki suits are always cool.

7
Caution: This is from the line "Flossiní, but have caution," and, really, being cautious while flossiní is smart, and itís the way Iíd floss were I ever in a position to do so. (Itís also probably counterintuitive to the spirit of flossiní. Still, itís a good reason, just to be safe.)

8
The potential to bump and grind like a slow jam: I am a very big fan of bumping and grinding, be it like a slow jam or any other jam, really.

9
Bomb beats from Dre: Sure.

10
Serenades: Okay.



Roger Troutmanís Zapp band had a very clear influence on G-Funk. Dr. Dre choosing to use him for the hook on ďCalifornia LoveĒ indicates a new stage in rap: having precedents and heroes and the ability to incorporate them into the new music being made from their seeds. That he was being featured on a song that was connecting gangsta rap with G-Funk for this new thing feels significant, too, as does the fact that this celebration of Cali counterculture was happening while the ground was still vibrating from the police batons and boots that had swung at and stomped on Rodney King. ďCalifornia LoveĒ was Tupacís turn as the biggest gangsta rapper in the world. He was dead nine months later.

Bad Reasons
1
Pimps: Iíve only ever met two pimps in my life. Neither of those times was that great of an experience. The pimps were not anywhere near as entertaining as the flamboyant pimps you see in movies from the '70s. They were more like the pimps from Taken.

2
Fiends: Whatís happening right now?

3
Riots (not rallies): No, thank you. But you have fun at your riot full of pimps and fiends. Thatís ten good and three bad. California seems okay.

4
This.

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Just.

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Keeps.

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On.

8
Getting.

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Worse.

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And.

11
Worse.

12
He was shot five times on December 1, 1994, the night before the sentencing. He rolled himself right TF into the courtroom the next day.

13
The first five albums Death Row released: Dr. Dreís The Chronic, Snoopís Doggystyle, the soundtrack for Above the Rim, the soundtrack for Murder Was the Case, and Tha Dogg Poundís Dogg Food.

14
I canít think of four actors who had a better back-to-back-to-back run, seriously.

15
I meant this generallyóthe big videos, the budgets, all thatóbut in this case itís also specific: Puff re-created the desert scene from "California Love" in his "Canít Nobody Hold Me Down" video. He just replaced the Mad Max cars with a very expensive one for him and Mase.

16
The original version, I mean. Not the 2011 remake. The 2011 remake was a real chore, the one clear exception being Miles Teller as Willard.


He wasnít nearly as complex as Chris Penn, but he was still a total gem.


This is an excerpt from Shea Serrano's new book, The Rap Year Book: The Most Important Rap Song From Every Year Since 1979, Discussed, Debated, and Deconstructed, which is available now. Reprint courtesy of Abrams Books.

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