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Anti-Stunna

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posted Thursday, October 05, 2017 11:46:27 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Anti-Stunna
wow

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LiquidDo$e

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 12:42:12 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for LiquidDo$e
Ha!

Fuckin Dope! Good post...I had a feeling I should check UGHH tonight...Two of my favorite MCs...

Must Say Black Thought is a rapping genius...Meth is slick as fuck on that.

Heres to hoping this is a reflection of both there next efforts....Luh Hime (sp)!

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Lit Jagger

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 2:10:05 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Not gonna press play

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SC1989

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 5:06:10 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for SC1989
^^
Cause Black Thought be to much for you to handle.
Go back to your basic wack King Kenny

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PAhiphopFAN

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 7:14:22 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for PAhiphopFAN
That was incredible. I just hope meth didnt burn up his best bars for this. Hope his verses on Saga Continues is just as dope and this is a preview for how dope his future solo albums will be lyrically.

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ci_fus

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 4:28:07 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for ci_fus
That was really nice. Enjoyed both of their cyphers.

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bUcKtHaDeViL

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posted Friday, October 06, 2017 8:26:41 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for bUcKtHaDeViL
Thanks for throwin that up Anti. Needed to inject some hip hop into my arm real quick. That was a perfect hit.

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Lit Jagger

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posted Saturday, October 07, 2017 2:53:36 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Lol at black thought better than kendrick😂;, yeah okay guy

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Lit Jagger

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posted Saturday, October 07, 2017 2:56:56 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
I only could listen to a minute of that shit. That 90s style is played out they need to change their flows

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no mask

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posted Saturday, October 07, 2017 1:53:30 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
dope written verses from both and meth was doing his crazy flow for sure BUT reading off the phone is wack. i gotta say it. reciting writtens while sitting down in a chair- woopty doo! bring the off the head freestyle and stand up or dont bother. maybe reciting a "new verse" is alright but not too impressive.

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:52:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Both killed it. The phone thing is a little annoying but he's more than earned the right to do that shit at this point in his career.

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no mask

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posted Saturday, October 07, 2017 10:05:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for no mask
^fuck that. lazy pricks sitting down reciting writtens is ballz!

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Lit Jagger

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posted Saturday, October 07, 2017 11:00:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Meam while Lupe will always have the best freestyle he freestyle was better than both these writtens

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Seme__one

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 4:01:07 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Seme__one
Not gonna press play

*presses play*

observe pwt

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KILLAKOWALSKI

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 4:37:11 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for KILLAKOWALSKI
THOUGHT AND METH shouldn't even be in the same sentance as Kendrick and Lupe. GTFOH.. kids...Read your history books.

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Phatbeets

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 8:18:02 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Phatbeets
cosign ferocious shit from Black Thought and Meth was on point.

aaahhhhhhh when hiphop sounds like hiphop... Observe you wouldn't understand.

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Lit Jagger

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 3:11:04 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Most hip hop heads agree that Lupe is a better rapper , they have a whole site called rap genius dedicated to Lupe.

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tippi dink

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 3:21:01 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
most hip hop heads are braindead morons tbh

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Lit Jagger

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 3:21:34 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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Lit Jagger

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 3:28:47 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
I guess this site knows more than Nas, Rakim and Jay Z 😂;😂;😂;😂;😂;

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tippi dink

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 3:28:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
they're just trolling man, how is that not obvious

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anti-stunna

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 5:08:10 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for anti-stunna
Ban this fucking gap tooth piece of shit. he just posted 8 times in a row spamming. How can you allow that.

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Mental Patient UGHH Artist

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posted Sunday, October 08, 2017 5:09:11 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
Cool.

I disagree with fans dissing about readung off the phones.

They're lyracists.

They gave you new work.

Memorizing takes time.

This is the new exclusive.

I'm grateful as fuck for this and only watched 1 minute so far!

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Fine Malt Liquor

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posted Monday, October 09, 2017 3:53:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Fine Malt Liquor
lol

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Seme__one

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posted Monday, October 09, 2017 4:18:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Seme__one
They're lyracists?

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Daddy Alfredo (Admin)

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posted Monday, October 09, 2017 5:59:41 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Daddy Alfredo
finally watched this on my tv this afternoon. black thought was black thought but meth killed this. thoughts 2nd verse was off beat to.

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Clockworx (Admin)

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posted Monday, October 09, 2017 9:36:17 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Clockworx
Method Man > Black Thought >>>>>>> Lupe

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:11:19 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
I don't see jay z nas or rakim saying that, only weirdo nerds

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Mental Patient UGHH Artist

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:00:46 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Mental Patient
If you edit out the pauses and breaks this is the best hip hop song of 2017 period.

That's it.

FOr so many reasons.

Black Thought has BEEN one of the greatest.

He could be the greatest. Fuck!

Method Man did very very well on this too.

The beat is futuristic, grimy and perfect.

Wu Tang needs to rhyme over beats like these more.

And Black Thought.

Fuck.

Necro should just produce for these two.

A Redman solo, Meth solo, and Black Thought Solo, and Krs One solo over all Necro beats would destroy the world with dopeness!

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:27:08 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
If you compared bar for bar of method man's lyrics and Lupes they would make method man's look like a 3rd grader wrote it

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:32:26 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger

[Verse]
God on the screen, televangelist swing
A jacket made of faith waving grace
At the catchy song slapathon super chic
Runnin' 'round Tehran with Qurans in the cape
Base nuclear bombs, build their arms like a palm full of weights
'Til the flash of daylight spawns in our face
Collective capitalistic adventures of the angelly invested
You only entered this for the exits
Flow is European Union, beats is like Brexit
Was restless, now me and chillin' go together like Netflix
The boyfriends and girlfriends
Like Baltimore and Maryland, Dorothy and whirlwinds
Trump on acid, didn't mean to gas it
Pulled up to the pump with his trunks on backwards
Carreras, Testarossas, Superleggeras
Gaviria meets Guevara
White man made me
Born coldhearted like Iceman's baby
I can't lately that's why I chant daily
Warm soul artists hope Iceland saves me
The isolated geothermal screens
Warms the blood, Reykjavik's the scene
Two chains, one ring
No watch, lame

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culturesclothing

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:09:51 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for culturesclothing
Black Thought is probably my top candidate for the GOAT title. He's just nasty. He has it all. Meth is dope too. I need more stuff like this in my life.

Spamming aside and speaking on some of what Observe posted, I think that Lupe is kind of a genius. His writing is next level, and I agree with Jay Elec about "Little Weapon". I just want to hear more from him like his mixtapes and first two albums. And as for Kendrick and J Cole, I may not like everything, but they are maturing and putting out some solid tracks. "Neighbors" by J Cole is one of the most relevant tracks in a while. Sidenote, I actually think that Chance is a good writer when he wants to be as well. "Acid Rain" and a few other tracks by him are very well-written.

Another sidenote, I came across another dope cypher the same day I saw this featuring Blu and ScienZe. I'll post it when I find it again

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tippi dink

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:43:36 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
lupe is a great rapper, but he's way too inconsistent to ever be considered the GOAT or even top 5. every single roots album where black thought has been prominately featured has been incredible, so i don't think you can really even compare the two. going just by albums and not mixtapes, lupe has 3 good albums and 3 that are trash. the only disappointing album the roots ever released was their last one in 2014 which black thought wasn't even on that much. also black thought has snapped on every single track he's ever been featured on and outshined everyone else on the track, only exception i can think of is super lyrical with big pun. that's why you see black thought in people's top 10s, he's one of the most consistent rappers ever.

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:35:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Lol at 3 Lupe albums being trash and the roots having better albums . That's your own personal opinion. I guess you know more than actual rappers who praise Lupe that I posted

Fuck outta here

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tippi dink

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:40:34 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
what are you talking about? those rappers aren't comparing lupe to black though, they're just saying they like lupe. black thought being one of the best is a no brainer, it doesn't even have to be said. also those same rappers would all praise black thought too if you asked them. and yes 3 of lupes albums are fucking trash. that's not just my opinion either, most people who have heard lasers, drogas light, and f&2 agree. if you think otherwise you're the one in the minority lol.

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:43:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Who is saying black thought is the best besides a small amount?, I've seen more people call Lupe the best. I guess you can't read the comments , half of these rapoers call him the best

I've never seen jay z , Nas, rakim call black thought the best , now you're just making shut up

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:46:56 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
F&L 2 is not trash , it has a average rating of 75% by about 8 review sites , fuck outta here

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:49:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
I would like to know where these 5 mic roots albums you claim to exist because they make better albums than Lupe or are you just pulling out imaginary classics out ya ass?

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:56:17 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Sway called Lupe's freestyle one of the best in wake up show history 🙄;🙄;

Never heard him say that about black thought 🙄;🙄;🙄;

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tippi dink

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:02:57 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
j cole and some dude named jace are the only ones that said he was the best rapper lol, that's half to you? i guess you can't count. neither nas or rakim said he was the best either. and 75% is not a good rating lol, that's being generous. on RYM its got a 2.6/5 average so clearly people don't like it nearly as much as f&l, the cool, or t&y. lupe himself even acknowledges this, so i don't see why it's so hard for you to realize. most people don't like that album, even though it was better than lasers which is pure garbage. the roots albums i'm referring to are illadelph halflife, do you want more, things fall apart, and game theory. at least the first three are all recognized as classics. things fall apart is ranked as the 29th best hip hop album of all time (3.89 average rating) on RYM, F&L is number 196. again, you are in the minority here.

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:04:33 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
Roots have never got 5 mics , all those albums you mentioned have the same rating as f&l 1 and tetsou and the youth

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tippi dink

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:06:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for tippi dink
the same ratings on what?

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Lit Jagger

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posted Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:09:40 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Lit Jagger
You're not good at this are You? You have to take multiple review ratings and average out all of them. Lupe albums and roots are basically the same to critics

Also if black thought is so good and the roots make better music than why is Lupe out selling them by 10x?

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