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Jay-eL

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posted Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:54:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
For more than a century, innumerable studies have confirmed two simple yet powerful truths about the relationship between immigration and crime: immigrants are less likely to commit serious crimes or be behind bars than the native-born, and high rates of immigration are associated with lower rates of violent crime and property crime. This holds true for both legal immigrants and the unauthorized, regardless of their country of origin or level of education. In other words, the overwhelming majority of immigrants are not “criminals” by any commonly accepted definition of the term. For this reason, harsh immigration policies are not effective in fighting crime. Unfortunately, immigration policy is frequently shaped more by fear and stereotype than by empirical evidence. As a result, immigrants have the stigma of “criminality” ascribed to them by an ever-evolving assortment of laws and immigration-enforcement mechanisms. Put differently, immigrants are being defined more and more as threats. Whole new classes of “felonies” have been created which apply only to immigrants, deportation has become a punishment for even minor offenses, and policies aimed at trying to end unauthorized immigration have been made more punitive rather than more rational and practical. In short, immigrants themselves are being criminalized.

Immigrants are Less Likely to be Criminals Than the Native-Born
Higher Immigration is Associated with Lower Crime Rates

Between 1990 and 2013, the foreign-born share of the U.S. population grew from 7.9 percent to 13.1 percent and the number of unauthorized immigrants more than tripled from 3.5 million to 11.2 million.
During the same period, FBI data indicate that the violent crime rate declined 48 percent—which included falling rates of aggravated assault, robbery, rape, and murder. Likewise, the property crime rate fell 41 percent, including declining rates of motor vehicle theft, larceny/robbery, and burglary.
Immigrants are Less Likely than the Native-Born to Be Behind Bars

According to an original analysis of data from the 2010 American Community Survey (ACS) conducted by the authors of this report, roughly 1.6 percent of immigrant males age 18-39 are incarcerated, compared to 3.3 percent of the native-born. This disparity in incarceration rates has existed for decades, as evidenced by data from the 1980, 1990, and 2000 decennial censuses. In each of those years, the incarceration rates of the native-born were anywhere from two to five times higher than that of immigrants.
The 2010 Census data reveals that incarceration rates among the young, less-educated Mexican, Salvadoran, and Guatemalan men who make up the bulk of the unauthorized population are significantly lower than the incarceration rate among native-born young men without a high-school diploma. In 2010, less-educated native-born men age 18-39 had an incarceration rate of 10.7 percent—more than triple the 2.8 percent rate among foreign-born Mexican men, and five times greater than the 1.7 percent rate among foreign-born Salvadoran and Guatemalan men.
Immigrants are Less Likely Than the Native-Born to Engage in Criminal Behavior

A variety of different studies using different methodologies have found that immigrants are less likely than the native-born to engage in either violent or nonviolent “antisocial” behaviors; that immigrants are less likely than the native-born to be repeat offenders among “high risk” adolescents; and that immigrant youth who were students in U.S. middle and high schools in the mid-1990s and are now young adults have among the lowest delinquency rates of all young people.
Criminalizing Immigration and Expanding the Apparatus of Enforcement
Despite the abundance of evidence that immigration is not linked to higher crime rates, and that immigrants are less likely to be criminals than the native-born, many U.S. policymakers succumb to their fears and prejudices about what they imagine immigrants to be. As a result, far too many immigration policies are drafted on the basis of stereotypes rather than substance. These laws are criminalizing an ever broadening swath of the immigrant population by applying a double standard when it comes to the consequences for criminal behavior. Immigrants who experience even the slightest brush with the criminal justice system, such as being convicted of a misdemeanor, can find themselves subject to detention for an undetermined period, after which they are expelled from the country and barred from returning. In other words, for years the government has been redefining what it means to be a “criminal alien,” using increasingly stringent definitions and standards of “criminality” that do not apply to U.S. citizens.

Of course, these increasingly punitive laws are only as effective as the immigration-enforcement apparatus designed to support them. And this apparatus has expanded dramatically over the past three decades. More and more immigrants have been ensnared by enforcement mechanisms new and old, from worksite raids to Secure Communities. Detained immigrants are then housed in a growing nationwide network of private, for-profit prisons before they are deported from the United States. In short, as U.S. immigration laws create more and more “criminal aliens,” the machinery of detention and deportation grows larger as well, casting a widening dragnet over the nation’s foreign-born population in search of anyone who might be deportable. With the technologically sophisticated enforcement systems in place today, being stopped by a police officer for driving a car with a broken tail light can culminate in a one-way trip out of the country if the driver long ago pled guilty to a misdemeanor that has since been defined as a deportable offense.

The scale of the federal government’s drive to criminalize immigration and expand the reach of the enforcement dragnet becomes very apparent when the proliferation of immigration laws, policies, and enforcement mechanisms is tracked over the past three decades. Two bills passed by Congress in 1996 stand as the most flagrant modern examples of laws which create a system of justice for non-U.S. citizens that is distinct from the system which applies to citizens. And, from old-fashioned worksite raids to the modern databases which are the heart of initiatives such as Secure Communities and the Criminal Alien Program (CAP), the government’s immigration-enforcement mechanisms continue to expand and reach deeper and deeper into the immigrant community. In the process, basic principles of fairness and equal treatment under the law are frequently left by the wayside.

The “Great Expulsion”
The United States is in the midst of a “great expulsion” of immigrants, both lawfully present and unauthorized, who tend to be non-violent and non-threatening and who often have deep roots in this country. This relentless campaign of deportation is frequently justified as a war against “illegality”—which is to say, against unauthorized immigrants. But that justification does not come close to explaining the banishment from the United States of lawful permanent residents who committed traffic offenses and who have U.S.-based families. Nor does it explain the lack of due-process rights accorded to so many of the immigrants ensnared in deportation proceedings. Likewise, the wave of deportations we are currently witnessing is often portrayed as a crime-fighting tool. But, as the findings of this report make clear, the majority of deportations carried out in the United States each year do not actually target “criminals” in any meaningful sense of the word.



https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states?utm_content=buffercf974&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

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Darth JT

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posted Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:09:01 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Darth JT
pf- did you even vote in November?

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Nassau William Senior

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posted Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:11:32 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Nassau William Senior
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Jay-eL

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posted Wednesday, March 01, 2017 2:51:27 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
I voted for Jill Stein.

I also voted in the caucus for bernie

I also helped people register to vote.

yes

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Jay-eL

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posted Wednesday, March 01, 2017 3:26:09 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
summary: Immigrants are Less Likely to be Criminals Than the Native-Born
Higher Immigration is Associated with Lower Crime Rates

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posted Wednesday, March 01, 2017 11:37:28 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Rev ain't Wright
Illegal immigrants are criminals by definition.

And proper vetting has always been a staple of responsible immigration.

Facts about the history of U.S. immigration:

Today about 1/3 of the American population can trace their ancestory to immigrants that passed through Ellis Island.

One of the main focuses of Ellis island was to make sure new immigrants could support themselves, had money to get established and had skills to obtain employment in which they would be able to support themselves.

In summary, it's imperative to weed out immigrants that are likely to feed off the economy and/or be destructive to society if you wish to maintain a prosperous society. Furthermore, this fact has nothing to do with color, creed or religion even if in the past or present bigoted people point to this fact to attempt to support their beliefs.

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mikey h

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posted Wednesday, March 01, 2017 11:48:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for mikey h
Lol at voting for Jill Stein.

At least you didn't vote for Hillary.

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fool blast

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posted Thursday, March 02, 2017 2:59:21 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for fool blast
people hating on immigrants is a pretty universal thing. just read this story today about south african mobs attacking african migrants. the nigerian guy in the photo is getting his ass kicked in front of a church


http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/south-african-mobs-attack-immigrants?articleId=USRTS105XB



when i was in korea, i was shocked to find out how much chinese immigrants are despised there. they look virtually the same, but nah they're not fam. they're viewed as backwards & mostly work menial jobs

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fool blast

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posted Thursday, March 02, 2017 3:14:07 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for fool blast
i empathize w/ the illegal immigrants a lil, cause i hate that bougie form of racism...but i dont give a fuk about trump cracking down on h-1b visas & indians....they're the wealthiest group in this country. if that can free up a bunch of high paying IT jobs for americans, especially minorities, then its a good thing

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posted Thursday, March 02, 2017 4:21:03 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics
Biased bullshit.
This does not look at individual groups. Denmark did a study on crime rates and found Palestinians to have a 150% higher crime rate and Somalian's, Turks, Moroccan's, Pakistani and eastern European like Serbs and Bosnians were double.
Lumping all immigrants together doesn't work because you're including people from countries with very similar values and comparable crime rates.

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DJ Smegma

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posted Thursday, March 02, 2017 1:02:13 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for DJ Smegma   Click Here to Email DJ Smegma
We can't fill the tech jobs, that's why we bring them in

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Jay-eL

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posted Thursday, March 02, 2017 2:20:00 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
Maff, you're just making paranoid justifications for your anti immigrant views.

the top ten countries the US takes immigrants from are all from countries with completely different cultural norms. China, Mexico, India, Cuba, Philippines, India, South Korea, El Salvador, Iraq, Dominican Republic.


do you have a link to said studies that say Pakistanis and Palestinians commit more crime? Do you think it is possible you could contribute this to second class citizenry, poverty, and racism?

Here is the thing, I don't give a fuck about your life, more than I give a fuck about their life, just because of where you were born. You aren't special just cause you got lucky and were born in more wealth than someone else. There is also, almost no country on earth that hasn't been harmed by, colonialism, imperialism, and crony capitalism from the west. I mean, if you know of one, I would like to hear about it. Some countries have more wealth now, but it is highly concentrated and non beneficial, even harmful to the citizenry, and indigenous populations.

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posted Thursday, March 02, 2017 4:42:06 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Denmark

Hard facts^

Immigration is cool when you're not importing a bunch of shit bags that don't give a fuck about causing pain and problems.

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mikey h

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"Here is the thing, I don't give a fuck about your life, more than I give a fuck about their life, just because of where you were born. You aren't special just cause you got lucky and were born in more wealth than someone else. There is also, almost no country on earth that hasn't been harmed by, colonialism, imperialism, and crony capitalism from the west. I mean, if you know of one, I would like to hear about it. Some countries have more wealth now, but it is highly concentrated and non beneficial, even harmful to the citizenry, and indigenous populations."

No one is trying to hear this liberal "check your privilege" cuckery anymore.
First Brexit, than Trump, Le Pen is next.

I'm again going to suggest, if you are crying to sleep about being born here, why not move. I heard Venezuela is nice. Pure socialism, no crony western capitalism. I heard North Korea also has the same thing, why not set up a visit with them?

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Darth JT

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276942/Swedish-town-migrants-laugh-laws-despise.html

I asked Mattias Karlsson, leader of the Swedish Democrats - currently leading in the polls - why other politicians refuse to acknowledge the problems right in front of their eyes.

He explained that to accept there is a problem would mean accepting nearly 80 years of liberal thinking was wrong. That multiculturalism doesn't work, that mass immigration does not lead to integration, that Sweden has made a big mistake.


and

I spoke to residents who know burglaries will not be attended, rapes not prosecuted, car fires accepted with a shrug, pepper spray banned in case your rapist is hurt.

Gangs here have rewritten the relationship between crime and punishment. They have gained the upper hand. And they know it. For them, justice is delivered with guns or knives, dominance asserted by unbuttoning their fly.

But the only response the government know is to try to silence people like Peter. To pretend the problem away.

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This was on the bbc news a few days ago:

When Tanveer Ahmed was sentenced to a minimum of 27 years in jail for murder last August, Judge Lady Rae said he had committed a "brutal, barbaric and horrific crime".

Ahmed stabbed to death Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah - who belonged to the persecuted Ahmadi sect - because he believed he was committing blasphemy by uploading online videos in which he claimed to be a prophet.

But in Pakistan, Ahmed is developing a growing number of supporters who see him as a "defender of Islam" for having killed someone they believed to be disrespecting the Prophet Muhammad.

On Monday evening, about 400 gathered outside his family's home in the city of Mirpur, in Pakistan-administered Kashmir for a rally in his honour. The crowd chanted slogans praising Ahmed as "brave" and "courageous".

One man attending said: "Because of what he did, the whole of Pakistan knows who he is."


In the west we don't even treat pedos so harshly, let alone take to the street to celebrate deaths.
But Jerm thinks it's a good thing to let these people flood into your country. Jerm has no problems with honour killings or female genital mutilation happening in his local area.
This shit happens a lot here and it's well publicised. However we also have a large population of Polish immigrants, they have a negligible impact on crime rates.
Immigration itself isn't a terrible thing, it just has to be managed carefully. Iirc America has like 300k Pakistani's, the UK, which is smaller than Texas, has well over a million. The only time you will realise letting too many immigrants into your country is when it's too late to do anything about it. But just assuming immigration is a good thing when you currently don't live with the aftermath of it is incredibly stupid.


I don't care where immigrants come from, I care if they will respect our country and everyone that's here. If you wanna live in Britain you need to adopt British values and learn to live by the law.

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Jay-eL

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posted Friday, March 03, 2017 9:37:13 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
White christian terror takes place far more often and while our societ condemns it there are ibviously people who celebrate it. You dont think the white nationalists, nazis etc. Celebrated the murder of muslims, or Dillan Roof? Cmon man.

They need opportunity like everyone else. Its poor people that cling to their religion so desperately.

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Oh so if white terrorists do it then it's ok for brown terrorists too.
Got it.

Besides that I'm not even talking about terrorists. I'm talking about difference in culture. In Pakistan 400 people gathered to show support for a murderer that killed another Muslim over blasphemy. That victim was rightly here to escape persecution in Pakistan but because we also let all the shit in too he couldn't avoid being killed for his beliefs.
400 is a fkin lot of people and gives insight to how attitudes in Pakistan currently are. You want to let them freely do as they please in your neighbourhood? These people are firmly in support of laws against blasphemy that are punishable by death.

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fool blast

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posted Friday, March 03, 2017 1:52:17 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for fool blast
i agree w/ you about adopting values & norms. annoys me when muslims act goofy like students at duke university trying to get a public muslim prayer call, and acting like they were oppressed when it didn't happen...thats one of the top bidness/medical schools, this aint sandsuckin kuwait. and they also need to understand their little grievances just don't fukin matter here. some hijab woman got questioned at the airport, who cares. lebron stacking the cavs & annoying nba fans is more important.

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Darth JT

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posted Sunday, March 05, 2017 11:59:44 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Darth JT
^lol

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Jay-eL

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posted Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:34:11 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
pretty s ad that trump faggots are planting retards to yell at.

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Jay-eL

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posted Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:38:25 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
"Oh so if white terrorists do it then it's ok for brown terrorists too.
Got it."

\how do you say stupid shit like this with the confidence of making a good point?

I also addressed your silly argument about culture. You live in fear of being a white minority and it's an extremely irrational fear. You look at the final product of the minority within a culture and assume it just magically appeared there as if some benevolent being dropped them down to the heavens with irrational hatred in their hearts. I'm sure you don't understand how bafoonish it sounds to others, but you aren't real into scratching past the surface of elitist, revisionist history.

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Darth JT

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I have to agree with [QUOTE]Illegal immigrants are criminals by definition.

And proper vetting has always been a staple of responsible immigration.

Facts about the history of U.S. immigration:

Today about 1/3 of the American population can trace their ancestory to immigrants that passed through Ellis Island.

One of the main focuses of Ellis island was to make sure new immigrants could support themselves, had money to get established and had skills to obtain employment in which they would be able to support themselves.

In summary, it's imperative to weed out immigrants that are likely to feed off the economy and/or be destructive to society if you wish to maintain a prosperous society. Furthermore, this fact has nothing to do with color, creed or religion even if in the past or present bigoted people point to this fact to attempt to support their beliefs.

[QUOTE]

I Think the same about immigration

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DJ Smegma

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posted Thursday, March 09, 2017 11:54:45 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for DJ Smegma   Click Here to Email DJ Smegma
yes, all those 300k jobs that are rolling in under Obama's 73 straight months of job growth are the dumb coal jobs and simple manufacturing jobs that Trump is talking about when none of his policies are even in place yet. lol

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Darth JT

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posted Thursday, March 09, 2017 1:06:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Darth JT
need a link Smegma. and not some liberal cheerleader fish wrap either. can't take a liberal for their word anymore..

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DJ Smegma

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you need a link to find out there has been 73 (actually 76) straight months of job growth? lol

here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/december-jobs-report/512366/

Hows Forbes, it's a known liberal rag, right?

"Depending on your point of view, it's either the first jobs report of Donald Trump's presidency or the last report that reflects activity under Barack Obama's time as Commander-in-Chief. Opinions aside, one thing is certain: job growth in the United States continued for the 76th consecutive month in January."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2017/02/03/job-growth-beats-expectations-u-s-added-227000-jobs-in-january/#1cb6bd537375

Try BLS on for size

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm#



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Darth JT

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posted Thursday, March 09, 2017 2:13:26 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Darth JT
hey, i link to the info i post here. so does soc, pf and fb too. no reason why you shouldn't have to either. ty btw..ill read that shit later.

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schoolkid

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DJ Smegma

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just assumed that info was so widely available that a source wasnt necessary

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You certainly didn't address shit about culture. You started babbling on about poor people clinging to religion. Go to Saudi Arabia and ask some oil barons about how moderate they are with religion. Honour killings have fuck all to do with being poor, it's the culture. If you can't figure that out you have no place speaking on it. Minority has fuck all to do with it either. Kids die in the UK, killed by their parents for being too westernised. And these are second and third generation parents that refuse to live by our laws. These kids suffer through violence and forced marriage because people cling on to Islamic culture that hasn't been acceptable in the west since medieval times. Go ahead and read up on honour killings in Pakistan and tell me it's due to a minority or how we are to blame for it. Dumbass.

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posted Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:03:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33424644

'Honour crime' 11,000 UK cases recorded in five years

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Jay-eL

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posted Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:47:37 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
It isnt difficult to see that oil barons in saudi arabia, much like the religious right in the western world, use religion as a means of socal control and dont follow the religion themselves.

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Jay-eL

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And its just flat out ignorant to say it is a cultural thing unless you also consider mass shootings of school children a major part of american culture. Or that its a cultural thing to beat eachother half to death over football games in western europe.

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posted Friday, March 10, 2017 3:47:42 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Darth JT
www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2017/02/03/job-growth-beats-expectations-u-s-added-227000-jobs-in-january

As for the question of whether the 44th or the 45th president should take credit for Friday’s report, economic experts are largely staying out of it.

“The sample was all pre-inauguration – but President Elect Trump was more active than any prior President Elect – so not sure how to interpret that part,” Tchir noted.



patting yourself on the back for 70+ months of job growth after liberals caused the worst recession since the Great Depression is kinda bullshit if you ask me. these charts are far more telling though :

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/duration-of-unemployment.htm

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/persons-not-in-the-labor-force-who-want-a-job.htm

back to work everybody. nobody cares about your identity crises and culture wars anymore.

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Guns are part of American culture. Football is a part of British culture. No idea why you would think they are not.
Lol at your well informed and educated opinion on Saudis. You're full of shit. Women can't even drive cars in Saudi Arabia. They can't do shit without permission from a husband and it's all to do with religion. But seems you don't want to see how things really are, you just want to divert attention to the worst things white people do. How many white people go to Pakistan and shoot loads of innocent people? How many go there and start sports violence? It doesn't happen. How many Pakistan people bring their honour crimes with them? That BBC link gives you an idea. And those are only the reported crimes.

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DJ Smegma

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posted Friday, March 10, 2017 9:58:38 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for DJ Smegma   Click Here to Email DJ Smegma
Darth - you're a moron. Literally every word of your reply is dumb. Wtf is wrong w/ you?

Anyhoo, head to mtns for the weekend. Have a good one!

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wicked 22.2

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posted Friday, March 10, 2017 11:39:47 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for wicked 22.2   Click Here to Email wicked 22.2
Sry Maff but football is part of USA culture. Soccer is what U.K. plays.

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Maffmatics (Admin)

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posted Friday, March 10, 2017 1:40:58 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics
You play hand egg

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Darth JT

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posted Friday, March 10, 2017 5:30:46 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Darth JT
Darth - you're a moron. Literally every word of your reply is dumb. Wtf is wrong w/ you?

Anyhoo, head to mtns for the weekend. Have a good one!


disappointing response. not surprised though.

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Jay-eL

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posted Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:28:08 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
Maff, if you are going to try and argue with me i would appreciate it if you addressed things i actually said instead of some exaggerated version of what i said.


I said school shootings and football holligans as a MAJOR part of the culture.

I mean you speak as if its totally accepted in the middle east to kill innocent people because their religion allows them to. That just isnt the case. If you dont believe me, try talking to some muslims.

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Maffmatics (Admin)

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posted Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:00:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics
Maybe you missed it but there's a shit ton of Pakistan people here, over 3x more than in all of America. Do you have muslims declaring areas as Sharia zones? Banning alcohol, gambling and men and women mixing in public? You're clueless about what immigration can do because you have never lived with it. You live in some drippy dick Disney dream world where everyone is equal but it's bullshit. How are we going to be equals with people who still see women as a lower life form? People who can't respect our way of life.
The law in Pakistan does nothing about honour killings. So yes it's acceptable and a way of life there. Immigration brings that way of life and acceptance with it, exactly like it has here.

This is why your "immigration is great" opinion is completely moronic. Immigration needs tight controls.

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mikey h

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posted Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:44:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for mikey h
George Soros (Google him) and those advocating for a world with open borders, (The disaster we are seeing in much of Europe) would call Jay-eL a "useful idiot."

This is exactly the type to try to bring the rest of civilization down, just because they have a little libtard, white guilt.

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Ram Davagina

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posted Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:32:49 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Ram Davagina
Jay-el is the dumbest person on ughh
His brain makes connections that aren't there.
His brain doesn't make connections that are there.
He is an absolute fucking moron.

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Jay-eL

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posted Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:45:05 AM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
Well maff, the trump supporters feel the same way you do. That should tell you something. I lived in a town with 30 percent mexican population and it was fine. They have their own neighborhoods and businesses and their own norms and its only difficult on the individual if they make it difficult.

Maff how do you expect the norms to change or morals to advance in countries that your country along with other western countries carved up with arbitrary borders and then continued to create conflict over control of the region, and then, when their world is completely torn apart and in constant conflict you tell them to deal with it?

They have had democracy in the region and g8s go in and back military coups against it, place our leaders, and then execute them when they want to use their land labor and resources for themselves. Its a pattern repeated over and over again.

Mikey, you havent figured anything out I see. Always funny to me when someone who doesnt even bother to do any research is strongly opinionated.


Jsn, you dingbat, name one conclusion I have drawn? I dont draw conclusions.

You think Israel is great but you wont even bother yourself with the massive amounts of evidence of human right violations they commit.

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Maffmatics (Admin)

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posted Sunday, March 12, 2017 5:51:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics
Mexicans don't live by Islamic law, unsurprising you didn't consider that. Completely different cultures with different values.

Also cool dick bag move likening me to a Trump supporter. Clearly you are unable to decipher somebody's motives no matter how clear they are.

Newsflash, we didn't invent islamic law or honour crimes. That all happened without us. History is a feeble excuse to just let any scummy fuckstick drain your economy. We have been letting Pakistani people live here since the 1950s and despite how tolerant Britain is there's still a large amount of them that refuse to integrate. They will still commit honour crimes if their children act "westernised". But go ahead and be a short sighted retard and ignore all that. Just close your eyes and blame white people for everything with your ridiculous logic.

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Jay-eL

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posted Sunday, March 12, 2017 6:47:30 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
Whats ridiculous is calling it history as if it isnt also current events. I never said to let everyone in.

I said trump supporters believe the same thing as you with the same motives. They arent all nazis maff.

Christians believe in a lot of the same type of shit and if they felt displaced and lived in poverty they would use the bible for the same bullshit. There isnt much difference between the two religions but christians arent going to sacrifice their freedom and wealth to enforce it.

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Jay-eL

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posted Sunday, March 12, 2017 7:08:42 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-eL
How you managed to turn a lost about us immigration policies and white paranoia into a post about brittain and pakistan....

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mikey h

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posted Sunday, March 12, 2017 7:39:59 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for mikey h
^ Cuck.

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