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Maffmatics (Admin)

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:31:35 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics


If you missed it, the Channel 4 interview where straight logic smashed a ridiculous feminist presenter:



You could also check out Cathy Newmans Twitter where the comedic backlash still goes on with every reply to her tweets starting with "So what you are saying is..."

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Porkelin

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:06:04 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
Yeah, saw it. Fucking hilarious.

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:16:15 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Groucho Marxist
talk about a failure of intellect, there is your poster boy.

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:20:16 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Groucho Marxist
"he is the Rosa Parks of pronouns basically." haha

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son makes wild logic jumps and extrapolates points out to laughably ridiculous places

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lol them chapo trap house dudes clownt him hard

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Porkelin

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:29:53 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
Where does he do that?

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:49:42 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Groucho Marxist
Porkelin, listen to that Chapo youtube. about a minute or two in they give a pretty laughable example.

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:40:39 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics
The people i watch bring intelligent arguments.

The people Jeremy and Smegma watch make second hand Kermit the Frog impressions.

There's the difference.

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Jeremy posts a video then quotes it and lols at it in a different poast.

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:53:43 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
I happen to agree with his point that power demands respect. The only substantive criticism in that video was the deconstruction of his search engine experiment, but the point of it was just vague insinuation, so the Chapo dudes had to resort to speculation to attack his argument, which, to be fair, is exactly what Peterson called for by the sound of it. What he did explicitly say was that Google intends to shape people's perception through its algorithm in one way or another. I don't know, I just didn't find it persuasive enough to completely discredit Peterson, which is what it seemed like they were trying to do.
For the record, what I saw when image searching "bikini" on Google was female models in bikini. On Bing I saw a lot more of plain bikinis, as cartoons or as ads, and there was shaving tools for your bikini line... So I guess Google is either more accurate or more narrow in its results, depending on how you wanna look at it.

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The highlight from the Channel 4 interview if you aint got time fo dat:



And a summary:

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Porkelin

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:09:58 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
So you're saying you endorse Jordan B. Peterson because he supports neo-nazis?

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:20:54 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Groucho Marxist
You know why you don't see the great minds of today battling it out with Jordan Peterson? because he isn't relevant. That is why you get nothing but a smart comedy show making fun of him.

He has some fair points but he essentially bounces back between a dishonest libertarian, and a frantic al-right panderer. I mean this fucking douche thinks the most important thing to debate is whether or not we should call someone by a preferred pronoun.

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:33:11 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Groucho Marxist
Rogan gets some good voices from the left sometimes but no scholars. If you put up Miachael Parenti, or Noam Chomsky on JRE, Peterson would look like he went full retard.

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:49:38 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Maffmatics   Click Here to Email Maffmatics
Channel 4, one of the biggest channels in the UK puts Peterson up and Jeremy thinks he isnt relevant.

Ever heard of Film4? Part of Channel 4.

Maybe you should check stuff out before saying a bunch of stupid shit.

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:02:17 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
The pronouns are important because of what they implicate. They implicate compelled speech. That's what Peterson has a problem with. He's not refusing to use the pronouns to disrespect transgendered people. He should have every right to disrespect them if he wanted to, but that's not the reason. He was speaking against that legislature because it infringes on free speech by implementing obligatory ideological speech. What's more is he doesn't subscribe to the ideology in question. And neither should he. The whole LGBTQIA movement is toxic. Radical leftism is the strongest in social workers' domains. That's the people who take care of your kids while you're at work! They're actually starting to encourage transgenderism at kindergartens, and there are actual parents who let their children (who are under the age of consent, let's remember exactly what that means!) go through sex changes. It's ridiculous, it's abhorrent, and it's completely taboo in leftist bubbles. No one dares to speak about it because they've spent so much time condemning people who are against these special groups. It's identity politics gone berserk!
But that's secondary. Writing law that demands that you any type of specific speech is immoral in itself, regardless of the politics behind the terms.
He's the Rosa Parks of pronouns. Right. It might sound silly to you, but it doesn't to me. First of all, as Jordan Peterson has said before, it's completely impractical given the multitude of pronouns, but what's more important is the manner in which it's forced through! You can't demand of people to change the way they speak! That's downright Orwellian! You really don't want the state micromanaging your social interactions. It leads to even more socially awkward and repressed miserable man-boys unable to grow up, scared shitless of hurting women's feelings, ashamed to be themselves to the extent that they'll cut up their dicks to form vaginas so that they can be glorified victims instead of self-loathing oppressors. It's fucking pathetic. And beyond that, it's bordering on totalitarianism. You think the threat of right-wing totalitarianism is bad under Trump? Look at the backlash against him. That movement is much more likely to instate totalitarianism than fucking Trump is.
Would you support trans-racialism? Changing your ethnicity to better suit your identity? Crazy people would start undergoing surgical black face, anyone who called them crazy would be labeled a bigot without the least sense of irony, and kids would encouraged in kindergarten to ruin their lives at the age of 3. All in the name of equality. The difference is that it's more biologically viable for you to claim you're a different race than it is for you to claim you're a different gender.
And what does Chomsky ever speak about other than how fucking terrible USA is? He has no solutions other than "stop doing bad things". He's a well-read simpleton. And America is not bad considering just how fucked up the rest of the world is. It'd be career suicide for Joe Rogan to have him on his podcast. Not because Joe Rogan would look like an idiot, but because Chomsky would make the show a total snooze-fest. It'd be a terrible traffic hazard to commuting listeners.
And you say Jordan Peterson isn't relevant... By whose merits? Leftist media? He's irrelevant to them if they decide that he is, and they decide that he is if they don't agree with his message. Funny how that works...

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:02:45 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
#triggered

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Wall-o-text i enjoyed reading

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Also i cosign the fuck out of your America not being that bad point. Without delving into what our countries do overseas, being a citizen of the nations we live in gives us an incredible level of freedom compared to most of the world. Where in the Middle East are you free to be LGBT? Apart from Israel, the country Jeremy detests.

People that think its shit to live in the west are unappreciative cunts. You wanna say we do shitty stuff abroad then i will agree, although it's not like we are the only nations that meddle, but just to have the right to speak up on issues that bother us is something many countries won't have for a very long time.

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Porkelin

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:12:41 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
Right! People need to understand that we've never had it this good in the history of civilization. It might not be the utopia of your wildest dreams, but it's pretty good, so something's done right.

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posted Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:25:03 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Groucho Marxist
Maff, is fucking dumb as dicks.


dude I hae to repost your comment so I can read it.
The pronouns are important because of what they implicate. They implicate compelled speech. That's what Peterson has a problem with. He's not refusing to use the pronouns to disrespect transgendered people. He should have every right to disrespect them if he wanted to, but that's not the reason.

He was speaking against that legislature because it infringes on free speech by implementing obligatory ideological speech. What's more is he doesn't subscribe to the ideology in question.

And neither should he. The whole LGBTQIA movement is toxic. Radical leftism is the strongest in social workers' domains. That's the people who take care of your kids while you're at work! They're actually starting to encourage transgenderism at kindergartens, and there are actual parents who let their children (who are under the age of consent, let's remember exactly what that means!) go through sex changes.

It's ridiculous, it's abhorrent, and it's completely taboo in leftist bubbles. No one dares to speak about it because they've spent so much time condemning people who are against these special groups. It's identity politics gone berserk!

But that's secondary. Writing law that demands that you any type of specific speech is immoral in itself, regardless of the politics behind the terms.

He's the Rosa Parks of pronouns. Right. It might sound silly to you, but it doesn't to me. First of all, as Jordan Peterson has said before, it's completely impractical given the multitude of pronouns, but what's more important is the manner in which it's forced through! You can't demand of people to change the way they speak! That's downright Orwellian!

You really don't want the state micromanaging your social interactions. It leads to even more socially awkward and repressed miserable man-boys unable to grow up, scared shitless of hurting women's feelings, ashamed to be themselves to the extent that they'll cut up their dicks to form vaginas so that they can be glorified victims instead of self-loathing oppressors. It's fucking pathetic. And beyond that, it's bordering on totalitarianism. You think the threat of right-wing totalitarianism is bad under Trump? Look at the backlash against him. That movement is much more likely to instate totalitarianism than fucking Trump is.


Would you support trans-racialism? Changing your ethnicity to better suit your identity? Crazy people would start undergoing surgical black face, anyone who called them crazy would be labeled a bigot without the least sense of irony, and kids would encouraged in kindergarten to ruin their lives at the age of 3. All in the name of equality. The difference is that it's more biologically viable for you to claim you're a different race than it is for you to claim you're a different gender.

And what does Chomsky ever speak about other than how fucking terrible USA is? He has no solutions other than "stop doing bad things". He's a well-read simpleton. And America is not bad considering just how fucked up the rest of the world is.

It'd be career suicide for Joe Rogan to have him on his podcast. Not because Joe Rogan would look like an idiot, but because Chomsky would make the show a total snooze-fest. It'd be a terrible traffic hazard to commuting listeners.

And you say Jordan Peterson isn't relevant... By whose merits? Leftist media? He's irrelevant to them if they decide that he is, and they decide that he is if they don't agree with his message. Funny how that works...

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Alright, well, I'm off. Talk to you later Groucho. Have a good one.

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Peterson is the most trending person on the internet right now.

lol at not relevant.

what a tiny universe you live in.

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Ok that is a lot to unpack there but let me start by saying that Jordan Peterson is the one making it about pronouns. This is where the confusion lies. The bill known as c-16 is more clear that they are referring to hate speech which is further defined in Canadian criminal code and has to include some sort of desire and call for genocide.

Peterson is arguing against points that don't exist. If they were I would take his side, but as far as I can tell he is not.

What I am saying is that, for Jordan Petersons argument about the use of pronouns to be relevant he would have to prove himself that misusing pronouns is hate speech that can cause or call for genocide or a breach of the peace, which is also defined in Canadian law.

My dislike for him has come from his complete dishonesty about socialism, or communism. While he will criticize capitalism as well, you are never more than five minutes away from him singing it's praises. I don't believe he is dumb enough to believe everything he says about socialism or communism.

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I was the most mentioned name on twitter for 2 or 3 days because I told Talib kweli that poor white people are shot by police in the US just as often as poor black people.

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if there痴 no gender pay gap then why are black women paid the lowest , dudes a freaking idiot that never has done any research

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seems there is a big pay gap

Women in the U.S. who work full time, year round are typically paid only 80 cents for every dollar paid to their male counterparts. The wage gap has stagnated, with very little change since 2007. This gap in earnings translates into $10,086 less per year in median earnings, leaving women and their families shortchanged. This disparity is the top concern of working women. Although enforcement of the Equal Pay Act and civil rights laws and other progress, including increased access to reproductive health care, have helped narrow the wage gap over time, addressing the significant pay disparities that remain is critical for women and their families.

Equal Pay Is Crucial for All Women

Women of color are paid less than white, non-Hispanic men.

Black women working full time, year round typically make only 63 cents for every dollar paid to their white, non-Hispanic male counterparts. For Latinas this figure is only 54 cents, for Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander women it is 59 cents, and for Native women it is 57 cents. While Asian women working full time, year round are typically paid only 87 cents for every dollar paid to their white, non-Hispanic male counterparts, the wage gap is substantially larger for some subgroups of Asian women. The wage gap translates into an annual loss of $21,698 for Black women, $26,403 for Latinas, $24,007 for Native women, and $7,310 for Asian women. Closing the wage gap is, therefore, particularly important for Black, Latina, and Native women who have lower incomes, and are more likely to be in poverty than white, non-Hispanic women and Asian women.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/31/us/gop-retreat-train-crash.html

that's twice now a GOP's have been targeted in Virginia.

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Tadow - Shouldnt you be crying about gay frogs or 80% pig humanoidz?

Lol Maff is a dumb dick. lol I've watched a bunch of Jordan Peterson interviews. since Im able to think critically I'm able to see when he's making wild jumps of logic and coming to really stupid conclusions. He literally thinks that pronouns will be the downfall of society. At anyrate, he got shredded in the chapo traphouse and it was hil.


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You think critically but have never in your life made a poast with any substance, Smegma?

Your'e just as dumb as Jeremy who can't even figure out who wrote the wall-o-text itt.

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Smegma
Care to share an example?

Karim
The only way you can get outraged by the wage gap is by assuming there's no difference between men and women.

Groucho
Special groups get special treatment. Where does it say that hate speech is defined by calling to genocide? It's not. "Bias, prejudice or hate based" assault becomes aggravated assault. Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.

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ex junkie with a community college degree has the nerve to label people irrelevant.

fuck out of here you pretentious faggot

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biggest inauguration crowd size ever folks

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Funny you poast that and fully support Hamas who have called for the genocide of Jews.

Damn, must be cool to be able to switch up your moral code just to fit whatever bullshit opinion you are currently pushing.

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posted Thursday, February 01, 2018 1:56:05 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for Porkelin
I don't see how that says hate speech necessitates advocating genocide.

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Those are the portions of the bill refering to hate speech.

Maff, I never said I, "fully support Hamas" I don't fully support any form of authority. Also, Hamas does not currently call for genocide of all Jews. We have been over this.

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Right, and bill C-16 says which groups are to be overprotected. So what's your point?

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lol where does it say to over protect? how do you read that portion of the bill and think that is over protection?

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trevor?

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Link me to some poasts you made where you admitted Hamas did something wrong.
You cant. I can link you to hundreds of poasts where you vehemently defended them.

You don't need to say you fully support Hamas, you already made it very clear.

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so fucking dumb

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Challenge not accepted.

No surprise there.

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link me to some posts where I fully supported Hamas. Are they better than the Israeli government right now? yep. easily. Almost everyone is better than the Israeli Government.

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fomf

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Arguing with hypocritical idiots is not a waste of time at all.

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When karim and jerm agree on a subject, you pretty much know they're wrong

2 dorks teaming up

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"lol where does it say to over protect? how do you read that portion of the bill and think that is over protection?"

I say overprotection because everyone is already protected under the law. How do you read that and think it necessitates genocidal motives? One paragraph deals with genocide. The next deals with hate crimes. It's a complete non sequitur.
They claim to need new laws. To say that people, who are deluded into thinking they're the opposite sex (how's that for social construct btw), need new laws to be safe, is, in fact, to overprotect them. It was already illegal to attack them. Now it's more illegal: It's illegal to attack them, plus it's illegal to do so on account of prejudice.
You need to take into consideration C-16, C-46 and the precedent of what's considered "violence". LGBTQIA is a toxic movement. Pandering to them is a big mistake. We're talking about the delusions of mental ill people like they're just as viable as the most established branch of science there is; namely biology. And we don't even do it because they have convincing arguments. It's out of sheer pity.
When they consider misidentification as an act of aggression, and the law says that an assault is technically aggregated if it's motivated by bias or prejudice, it's really easy to make the case that being misgendered justifies self defense. Tranny men will fuck up your bitch if she gets catty about them joining her in the shower, and they'd only be defending their human rights according to C-16.

Women who dress up as men might actually get intimidated by the rough nature of their new peers. That bulge in his pants might be a gun with hair trigger that's aiming at you! Support our PAC to disallow gun licenses for the transgendered and to have the existing gun licenses of newly transgendered people revoked on account of their mental disability being a societal hazard. It's a matter of national security, people!
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Groucho Marxist

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mcfuck

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posted Saturday, February 03, 2018 9:50:52 PM    Click Here to See the Profile for mcfuck
freedom is relative

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