posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:10:04 PM is the best producer of all time
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datniggabeon1
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posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:40:58 PM cool
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17DProduktionz
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posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:53:38 PM not if he doesn't drop Detox
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mike vee
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posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:58:44 PM the chronic was dope and some of snoops first album, but besides that I'm not a fan. I'm not sure why so many love his shit like he's God. They just sound like keyboard beats to me.
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DJ Illustrious
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posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:15:38 PM "the chronic was dope and some of snoops first album, but besides that I'm not a fan. I'm not sure why so many love his shit like he's God. They just sound like keyboard beats to me."
That' pretty close to how I feel, I think his last great beat was "Phone Tap" and that was all the way back in '97.
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DJ TEKNIK
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posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:17:59 PM ^^ you didn't like thats the difference song?
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Revilleslap
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posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:34:26 PM Look up Mel Man or Mike Elizondo.
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buzz
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posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:54:04 PM Detox is the Chinese Democracy of hip hop.
It'll probably end up that he sampled Ulrich Schnuass on it.
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DJ Illustrious
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posted Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:59:00 AM "It'll probably end up that he sampled Ulrich Schnuass on it.'
Only a true GN'R fan would get that reference.
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posted Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:22:01 AM "Look up Mel Man or Mike Elizondo" and focus
Dre defo one of the top hip hop visionaries but not sure if he one of the top beatmakerz.
cos if i had access to beats from the likes of jake one, khalil, nottz, and so on id give u a classic album every time out.
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eMiNeNT D0M@iN
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posted Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:37:40 PM Heres a bunch of samples, and interpolations I put together.
WARNING: Listening to this may cause conflicts between you, and Dre's nuts.
Not so Magical anymore...HUH?
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mike vee
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posted Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:53:51 PM not sure what that has to do with anything? so what he used samples??
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sckitzo
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posted Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:56:13 PM ^^LOL,No shit...this is fuckin' hip hop.
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ominous
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posted Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:53:53 PM I'm gonna point out what eMiNeNT D0M at iN is trying to say.
DRE is def top 3 if not number one as far as producing goes. But... a lot of his work, sampled based, is a straight rape of the original. Which is why I like Primo more than I like Dre. Primo will FLIP something. In other words he will take something that you would never think a beat can be made out of, and turn that shit into something ILL. Like Jeru's Come Clean.
A lot of Dre's work, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, is just a polished version of the original sampled material. I don't hear what I would call a FLIP.
But like yall said.... THAT IS HIP HOP.
There is nothing wrong with that. Some of the best beats work that way. Like Das EFX They Want EFX. Staright Guitar Watson sample. Not much done to it but lopped it up. There is no way to measure how much someone flipped something. I am just saying that I tend to give a little more credit to someone who completely transformed something into something hot than to someone who took something that was ALREADY DOPE, and just polished it.
NO I.D. had this sample flip exercise where he challenged all of us to flip some Nautilus and naturally, the producers who really took the samples far left or right got the most props because they showed some real skill and creativity in really FLIPPING it. Everyone came out with some very different arrangements.
But at the end of the day... all that seems to matter to people is how it sounds. They don't care that it is a straight loop with some kicks and snares over it. They don't care if it was a completely original arrangement hand played by the producer. They don't care that an unknown producer arranged it, to have it bought by a FAMOUS Producer who then gets to take the credit. They don't care if the producer hired a violinist because the producer cannot play a violin.
They just want to know if it is worth listening to in their car or iPod.
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datniggabeon1
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posted Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:25:42 PM DonBarzini
Total Posts: 448 Member Since: 2005 Location: "Bumpin Barry White, in the trunk is where i bury white." posted Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:17:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DonBarziniHeres a bunch of Wu-tang samples.
Not so Magical anymore...HUH?
Songs Listed In Alphabetical Order:
• 1-800 Suicide - Gravediggaz [Sunny - Booker T and The MGs] • 260 - Ghostface Killah [ You Ought To Be With Me - Al Green] • 4 Souls - La The Darkman [Land Of Dreams - Aretha Franklin] • 5 Arch Angels - Sunz Of Man [Mercy, Mercy Me - Marvin Gaye] • 5 Stars - Killarmy [Mash Theme] • 97 Mentality - Cappadonna ft. Ghostface Killah [Promises Of Yesterday - The Mad Lads]
• A Better Tomorrow - Wu-Tang Clan [The Changing World - George Benson] • A Day to God Is 1,000 Years - The The RZA [I Loves You Porgy - Nina Simone] • A Special Joint - Method Man & Redman [Spanish Moon - Little Feat] • Afterparty - Method Man [I Just Don't Know About This Girl of Mine - Detroit Emeralds] • All I Need - Method Man ft. Mary J Blige [You're All I Need To Get By - Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell / Synthetic Substitution - Melvin Bliss] • All In Together - Ol' Dirty Bastard [65 Bars & a Taste of Soul - Charles Wright] • All Over Again - Raekwon [Start All Over Again - The Delfonics] • All-Star Lineup - The The RZA feat. Afrob & Sekou [Der Schwanensee - Tschaikowsky] • All That I Got is You - Ghostface Killah feat. Mary J Blige [Maybe Tomorrow - The Jackson 5] • All That I Got is You Pt.2 - Raekwon [Penny Lover - Lionel Richie] • America - Wu-Tang Clan ft. Killah Priest [Let's Straight it Out - Ov Wright] • Animal Planet - GZA/Genius [Man's Temptation - Isaac Hayes] • Apollo Kids - Ghostface Killah ft. Raekwon [Cool Breeze - Solomon Burke] • Army Brigade - Royal Fam [Cigarettes And Coffee - Otis Redding] • Atoms To Adam - Killah Priest [Sweet Pain - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan & Michael Brook] • Audobon Ballroom - Black Market Militia [Before You Leave - Alphonse Mouzon] • Auto Bio - GZA/Genius [Belle de Jour - Saint Tropez]
• Back In The Air - Ol' Dirty Bastard ft. Ghostface [The Call - Gene Page] • Banned From The Radio - 9th Prince [Jealous Guy - John Lennon] • Bang Your Head - Gravdiggaz [Synthetic Substitution - Melvin Bliss] • Back in the Air - Ol' Dirty Bastard [The Call - Gene Page] • Bastards - Ruthless Bastards [My Gun Is My Hero - Diana Ross] • Bastard Swordsman - Killarmy [Stop & Check Myself - Al Green] • Be A Man - The RZA as Bobby Digital [Drowning On Dry Land - OV Wright] • Be My Girl - The RZA as Bobby Digital [Be My Girl - Dramatics] • Be This Way - Ghostface Killah [Funky Sensation - Gwen McRae / We'll Always Be Together - Billy Stewart] • Beat The Clock- Ghostface Killah [ Since I Fell for You - Laura Lee] • Beneath The Surface - GZA/Genius ft. Killah Priest & RES [Back To You - Gene Plum] • B.I.B.L.E. - Killah Priest [Our Love Has Died - Ohio Players] • Bizarre - U-God [Far Cry - Marvin Gaye] • Big Dogs - Method Man & Redman [Tell 'Em - Eric Sermon] • Big Spender - Raekwon [Hey Big Spender - Shirley Bassey] • Biscuits - Raekwon [ I Can't Stand Up for Falling Down - Sam & Dave] • Bizarre - U-God [Far Cry - Marvin Gaye] • Black August - Killah Priest [The Makings Of You - Gladys Knight & the Pips] • Black Boy - Cappadonna ft. Tekitha [You, I Adore - Barry White] • Black Jesus - Ghostface Killah [Riot - The Blackbyrds] • Black Knights of the North Star (Simply Ludicrous) - Black Knights ft. Northstar [They Won't Go When I Go - Stevie Wonder] • Black Sleeping Beauty - Sunz Of Man [You've Got a Friend - Carole King] • Black Widow pt. 2 - The The RZA [After the Laughter (Comes Tears) - Wendy Rene] • Bless Ya Life - KGB [Strong As Death, Sweet As Love - Al Green] • Blood for Blood - Killarmy [The Wind That Shakes The Barley - Dead Can Dance] • Blowgun - Bronze Nazareth [I Hate I Walked Away - Syl Johnson] • Blue Diamond - Raekwon [Islands In The Rain - Joe Sample] • Brain - Masta Killa [Pinky and the Brain Theme] • Break That - Mathematics [Risin to the Top - Keni Burke] • Breathe - Bronze Nazareth [Walk Right Up To The Sun - Delfonics] • Bring Da Ruckus - Wu-Tang Clan [Synthetic Substitution - Melvin Bliss] • Bring The Pain - Method Man [I'm Your Mechanical Man - Jerry Butler] • Buck 50 - Ghostface Killah ft. Wu-Tang Clan [Hard Times Baby Huey & The Baby Sitters] • Buckwylyn - Shyheim [Donkey Walk - Lou Donaldson] • Burning Season - Killarmy [Light My Fire - Al Green] • Butterflies - Buddha Monk [Butterflies - Michael Jackson] • Bust A Slug - Wu-Syndicate [ Love And Happiness - Al Green]
• Calm Swords - Bronze Nazareth [Simply Beautiful - Al Green] • Cakes - The The RZA ft. Kool G. Rap [Hard Times - Curtis Mayfield] • Camay - Ghostface Killah ft. Cappadonna & Raekwon [Can't We Try - Teddy Pendergrass] • Camouflage Ninjas - Killarmy [Mom - Earth Wind and Fire] • Can It Be All So Simple - Wu-Tang Clan [The Way We Were - Gladys Knight And The Pips ] • Can I Rise - Mathematics ft. Hotflames [Risin to the Top - Keni Burke] • Can You Feel It - Shyheim [Funky Sensation - Gwen McRae] • Can't Lose - The RZA as Bobby Digital [Chains And Things - BB King] • Can't Stop, Won't Stop - Street Life [You Can Exit - Gloria Gaynor] • Casablanca - Raekwon [Conan The Barbarian - Basil Polerdouris] • Cereal Killer - Method Man & Redman [The Rub - George & Gwen McRae] • Cheka - Method Man & Redman [Mic Cheka - Das Efx] • Cherchez La Ghost - Ghostface Killah [Cherchez La Femme - Dr. Buzzard Havanna Band] • Child's Play - Ghostface Killah [Aretha, Sing One For Me - George Jackson] • Chi Kung - The The RZA [Loneliness - Jean Plum] • Clan In Da Front - Wu-Tang Clan [Honey Bee - The New Birth] • Coach Talk - Mathematics ft. Bald Head [Ain't No Sunshine - Lyn Collins / Damn - Nite-Liters] • Co-Defendants - Shyheim feat. Hell Razah [A Nickle And A Nail - OV Wright] • Cold - Sunz Of Man [Sunny - James Brown & Dee Felice Trio] • Cold Blooded - Ol' Dirty Bastard [Cold Blooded - Rick James] • Cold World - GZA/Genius [Rocket Love - Stevie Wonder] • Constant Elevation - Gravediggaz [Louie - Allen Toussaint] • Cradle Rock - Method Man [Bright Tomorrow - Mighty Clouds Of Joy] • C.R.E.A.M. - Wu-Tang Clan [As Long As i've Got You - Charmels] • Crime Saga (Remix) - Shabazz The Disciple [Bag's Groove - Milan Stojanovic] • Crime Story - Shyheim [Give Me One More Chance - Fat Back Bank] • Criminology (1) - Raekwon [I Keep Asking You Questions - Black Ivory / Why Marry - Sweet Inspirations] • Cuttin Heads - Raekwon [Synthetic Substitution - Melvin Bliss]
• Day One - Killarmy [Dicitencello Vuie - Mario Lanza] • Daytona 500 - Ghostface [Nautilus - Bob James] • Dear God - Shyheim [The Look Of Love - Burt Bacharach] • Dedicated - Shyheim [All I Am - Heatwave] • Defective Trip (Trippin') - Gravediggaz [Twine Time - Alvin Cash] • Deathtrap - Gravediggaz [Seven Minutes Of Funk - Thomas, Tyrone, & The Whole Darn Family] • Diary of a Madman - Gravediggaz [No Love - Allen Toussaint] • Dirty the Moocher - Ol' Dirty Bastard [Minnie the Moocher - Cab Calloway] • Did Ya Say That? - GZA/Genius [Run Tank Run - Booker T & The MGs] • Do You Really (Thang Thang) - Wu-Tang Clan [Hang On Sloopy - David Porter] • Don't Test / Wu-Stallion - Suga Bang Bang [Simply Beautiful - Al Green] • Don't You Know - Ol' Dirty Bastard [Aint No Sunshine - Lyn Collins] • D.T.D - Masta Killa [Try A Little Tenderness - Otis Redding] • Duel Of The Iron Mic - GZA/Genius [I'm Afraid The Masquerade is Over - David Porter]
• Fam Mail - Dom Pachino [Door to Your Heart - The Dramatics] • Fam (Members Only) - GZA/Genius [Between Her Goodbye and My Hello - Gladys Knight & The Pips] • Fatal - The The RZA [Venus in Furs - Velvet Underground] • Fake MC's - Killah Priest [My Little Brown Book - John Coltrane & Duke Ellington] • Feel It - Killarmy [Walk Away from Love - David Ruffin / If I Could Reach You - 5th Dimension & Marilyn McCoo] • Fish - Ghostface Killah [A Change Is Gonna Come - Otis Redding] • Flowers - Ghostface Killah [Take Me To The Mardi Gras - Bob James] • Fools - The RZA as Bobby Digital [Everybody Plays The Fool - Aaron Neville] • For Heaven's Sake - Wu-Tang Clan [Don't Leave Me Lonely - King Floyd] • For the Lust of Money/Grandz - Sunz Of Man [Wishes and Dishes - Sweet Inspirations] • Freak The Sorceress - Gravediggaz [Gone Home - Eddie Harris] • Friction - Inspectah Deck [One Way Street - Ann Peebles] • From Then Till Now - Killah Priest [The Man In The Raincoat - Marion Marlowe] • Furious Anger - Shyheim [The Windmills of Your Mind - Dusty Springfield]
• Get Familiar - The The RZA ft. Wu-Tang Killabeez [Get Flynt - Jerry Goldsmith] • Gettin High - Ol' Dirty Bastard [You Turn Me On - Labelle] • Gemstars - Black Market Militia [Who's Crying Now - Journey] • Ghost Deini - Ghostface Killah [My Gun is My Hero - Diana Ross] • Ghost Showers - Ghostface Killah [Sunshower - Dr Buzzards Original Savannah Band] • Glaciers of Ice - Raekwon [Children Don't Get Weary - Booker T And The MG's] • Gold - GZA/Genius [Aries - Cannonball Adderley] • Golden Sands - Wu-Syndicate [Danger She's a Stranger - Five Stairsteps] • Good Times - Ghostface Killah [Good Times Theme] • Good Times Pt 2 - Ghostface Killah [Good Times Theme] • Got's Like Come One Thru - Buddah Monk [Winding River - Bob James & Earl Klugh] • Grab The Mic - Masta Killa [Big Mac - Curtis Mayfield & the Staple Singers] • Grandz - Sunz Of Man [Wishes & Dishes - The Sweet Inspirations] • Gravel Pit - Wu-Tang Clan [Back And Forth - Cameo] • Grits - The The RZA ft. Masta Killa & Allah Real [ I Forgot to Remember - Jones & Blumenberg]
• Heart To Heart - Raekwon [Mister magic - Grover Washington Jr] • Heaterz - Wu-Tang Clan [Giving Up - Gladys Knight And The Pips] • Heaven And Hell - Raekwon [Could I Be Falling in Love - Syl Johnsson] • Here Come The Hits - Shyheim [Hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic - Isaac Hayes] • Here I Am - Shyheim [Pain - Ohio Players] • He's A Rebel - Inspectah Deck [He's a Rebel - The Crystals] • Hidden Emotions - Gravediggaz [Try a little tenderness - Otis Redding] • Hippa To Da Hoppa - Ol' Dirty Bastard [Hip Hug her - Booker T] • Holla - Ghostface Killah [La La Means I Love You - Delfonics] • Hollow Bones - Wu-Tang Clan [Is It Because I'm Black - Syl Johnsson] • Honeycomb - 9th Prince [We Do It - Carol Douglas] • How High - Method Man & Redman [A Ballad For Joe Louis (Louis) - Crusaders] • Hungry - U-God [Fish Ain't Bitin (Interpolated) - Lamont Dozier]
• I Can't Go To Sleep - Wu-Tang Clan [Walk On By - Isaac Hayes] • I Can't See You - Allah Real [Boadicea - Enya] • I Can't Wait - Ol' Dirty Bastard [TJ Hooker Theme] • Ich Weis - The The RZA [The Handwriting Is on the Wall - Ann Peebles] • I Declare War - Royal Fam [Goldfinger - Hugo Montenero] • I Declare War - Shyheim [Theme From Exodus - Liberace] • I Get My Thang In Action - Method Man [Hit or Miss - Bo Diddley] • I Gotcha Back - GZA/Genius [As Long As I've Got You - The Charmels] • I Love You So - Tekitha [I Feel a Song in My Heart - Gladys Knight & The Pips] • I Want Pussy - Ol' Dirty Bastard [You've Made Me So Very Happy - Blood Sweat &Tears] • Ice - Ghostface Killah [She Is My Lady - Donny Hathaway] • Ice Water - Raekwon [Lonely Boy - Iron Butterfly] • Illusions - Wu-Tang Clan [High Tide Or Low Tide - Bob Marley / Giving Up - Donny Hathaway] • In The Hood - Wu-Tang Clan [Nobody But You Babe - Clearance Reid] • In The Rain - Ghostface Killah [In The Rain - The Dramatics] • Incarcerated Scarfaces - Raekwon [You're Getting Too Smart - Detriot Emeralds / Wangdangdoodle - Koko Taylor] • Information - Killah Priest [All The King's Horses - Grover Washington Jr.] • Intro [Black Market Militia] - Black Market Militia [Flesh and Blood - Solomon Burke] • Intro [Bulletproof Wallets] - Ghostface Killah [Stairway to Heaven - O'Jays] • Intro [Collection Of Classics] - GZA/Genius [I'm Just An Average Guy - Masqueraders] • Intro [Pretty Toney] - Ghostface Killah [Tobacco Road - Tommy Youngblood] • Intro [The Last Shall Be First] - Sunz Of Man [You Are My Sunshine - Sun] • Intro [Tical] - Method Man [Promenade - Emerson, Lake and Palmer] • Intellectuals - Sunz Of Man [Mind, Body And Soul - Flaming Ember] • Intoxicated - Ol' Dirty Bastard [Nobody But You Babe - Clarence Reid ] • Iron Maiden - Ghostface Killah [Gotta Find A New World - Al Green] • Intellectuals - Sunz Of Man [Mind, Body And Soul - Flaming Ember] • Investigative Reports - GZA/Genius [I'd Be So Happy - Three Dog Night] • Israeli News - Sunz Of Man [Soft and Easy - The Blackbyrds] • It's Over - Ghostface Killah [I'm Afraid the Masquerade is Over - David Porter] • It'z Yours (Drums) - Wu-Tang Clan [Black Grass - Bobbascom]
• Kevorkian - Bronze Nazareth [Door to Your Heart - The Dramatics] • Killing Fields - Gravediggaz [Belle - Al Green] • King of Kings - Raekwon ft. Havoc [Masterpiece - The Temptations] • Kiss Of A Black Widow - The RZA as Bobby Digital [Over - Portishead] • Knock Knock - GZA/Genius [I Must Be Living For A Broken Heart - Spinners] • Knuckleheadz - GZA/Genius [Get Up and Get Down - The Dramatics] • Koto Chotanz - The The RZA [That's Just My Luck - Syl Johnson] • Kunta Fly Shit - Ghostface Killah [Survival - Annette Peacock]
• Land of My Dreams - Buddah Monk [Land of Dreams - Aretha Franklin] • Last Night - Ghostface Killah [Last Night Changed It All - Esther Williams] • Legend of the Liquid Sword - GZA/Genius [Razzamatazz - Quincy Jones] • Life's A Scheme - Buddah Monk [Come Go With Me - Teddy Pendergrass] • Liquid Swords - GZA/Genius ft. The RZA [Groovin - Willie Mitchell] • Little Ghetto Boy - Wu-Tang Clan [Little Ghetto Boy - Donny Hathaway] • Livin in the World Today - GZA/Genius [In the Hole - Bar Kays] • Live From NY - Raekwon [Eros - Chris Spheriss] • Love - Ghostface Killah [Statue of A Fool - David Ruffin] • Love - La The Darkman [If I Were Your Woman - Gladys Knight and The Pips] • Love Is The Message - Cappadonna [Love Is The Message - MFSB & The Three Degrees] • Love Jones - The RZA as Bobby Digital [Love Jones - Brighter Side Of Darkness] • Love Spell - Masta Killa [Life in the Country - The Ebony's] • Love Stories - Othorized Fam ft. Ghostface Killah [Theme From Love Story - Richard Clayderman] • Love Stories - Othorized Fam ft. Ghostface Killah [Theme From Love Story - Richard Clayderman] • Luv Allah - Northstar ft. Berrata 9 [Situationf - Hodges, James & Smith]
• Maaad Crew - Method Man & Redman [Sandworms - Dave Matthews] • Man's World - Buddha Monk [This is a Mans World - James Brown] • Malcolm - Ghostface Killah [Going In Circles - Isaac Hayes] • Maria - Wu-Tang Clan [I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know - Blood, Sweat & Tears] • Mayday - Black Market Militia [You Are Everything - Marvin Gaye & Diana Ross] • Maxine - Ghostface Killah [Harlem Clavinette - Bobby Womack] • M.e.t.h.o.d. Man - Wu-Tang Clan [Method Of Modern Love - Hall & Oates] • Meth Vs Chef - Method Man ft. Raekwon [Papa Was Too - Joe Tex] • Mighty Healthy - Ghostface Killah [Synthetic Substitution - Melvin Bliss] • Mighty King of Swords - Warcloud [My Little Runaway -Dell Shannon] • Militant - Killarmy [Funny Feeling - The Delfonics] • Missing Watch - Raekwon ft. Ghosftace [Upon This Rock - Joe Farrell] • Monster - Killarmy [Al Di La - Al Hirt] • Motherless Child - Ghostface Killah [Motherless Child - Ov Wright] • Movas & Shakers - Inspectah Deck [Don't Do It - Syl Johnson] • Move It Over Here - Shyheim [Return Of The Funky Man - Lord Finesse] • Mr. Sandman - Method Man [Ain't No Sunshine - Lyn Collins] • Musketeers of Pig Alley - Raekwon [Let a Woman Be a Woman, and Let a Man Be a Man - Dyke & The Blazers] • My Guitar - Ghostface Killah [While My Guitar Gently Weeps - Jimmy Ponder]
• Napsack - Sunz Of Man [Wishin & Hopin - Dionne Warwick / Crab Apple - Idris Muhammed] • Natural High - Sunz Of Man [Here I Am - Al Green] • New Producers - Shyheim [Tear It Down - Blue Magic] • Never Again - Remedy [My Hero Is a Gun - Diana Ross] • Never Gonna Come Back - Gravediggaz [ Love Serenade - Barry White] • No Love Without Hate - Sunz Of Man [Love & Happiness - Al Green] • No Said Date - Masta Killa [Police Woman Theme - Henry Mancini]
• North Star [Jewelz] - Raekwon [Mellow Mood - Barry White] • Nowhere To Run, Nowhere To Hide - Gravediggaz [ Jagger The Dagger - Eugene McDaniels] • Nutmeg - Ghostface Killah ft. The RZA [ It's Over - Eddie Holman]
• Ode to O-Ren Ishii - The The RZA [Sette Note in Nero] • Old Man - Masta Killa [Sanford & Son theme - Quincy Jones] • On & On (Premo Remix) - Shyheim [Opus Pocus - Jaco Pastorious] • On The Ground - The The RZA [Down Here on the Ground - Lou Rawls] • One - Ghostface Killah [You Roam When You Don't Get It At Home - The Sweet Inspirations] • One's 4 Da Money - Shyheim [Top Billin - Audio Two] • One Step - Killah Priest ft. Tekitha [I Forgot To Be Your Lover - William Bell] • One To Grow On - Killarmy [Tender Things - Bill Withers] • Originators - Killarmy [Dicitencello Vuie - Mario Lanza]
• Pa-Blow Escablow - Raekwon [Beep Beep - The Playmates] • Pain - King Just [I Feel a Song In My Heart - Bob James] • Party's Goin On - Shyheim [After the Laughter (Comes Tears) - Wendy Rene] • Pass It Off - Shyheim [Dont Change Your Love - Five Stairsteps] • Pass The Bone - GZA/Genius [Impeach the President - The Honey Drippers] • Pass the Mic - Theodore Unit [Music Man - Pleasure Web] • Paychecks - Theodore Unit [I Love You More Than Youll Ever Know - Blood Sweat & Tears] • Pimpology 101 - Mathematics ft. Buddah Bless [I Choose You - Willie Hutch] • Pit Bull Fights - Raekwon [I Can Sing A Rainbow - The Dells] • Pop Shots - Ol Dirty Bastard [Les Caids - Francois de Roubaix] • Publicity - GZA/Genius [I Who Have Nothing - Terry Knight & The Pack] • Punch In, Punch Out - Theodore Unit [Black Frost - Grover Washington Jr.] • Put It on the Line - Theodore Unit [Put It on the Line - Lyn Collins]
• Radioactive (4 Assassins) - Wu-Tang Clan [Adult Situations Bob James] • Rainy Dayz [Remix] - Raekwon [You Know How To Make Me Feel So Good - Harold Melvin] • Raw - Raekwon ft. American Cream Team [Disco Nights - GQ] • Rebel Music - Hell Razah [Peddlin' Music on the Side - Lamont Dozier] • Release Yo' Delf - Method Man [I Will Survive - Gloria Gaynor / Treasure of San Miguel - Herb Alpert and the Tiajuana Brass] • Retro Godfather - Method Man [Warp Factor II - Montana] • Right Back - Theodore Unit [Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is - Rose Royce] • Righteous Talk - Black Market Militia [Flesh and Blood - Solomon Burke] • Rodeo - Method Man ft. Ludacris [If I'm in Luck I Might Get Picked Up - Bette Davis] • Roll of Ya Lifetime - Cappadonna [What a Wonderful Thing Love Is - Al Green] • Rules - Wu-Tang Clan [I've Got The Papers, You've Got The Man - Ann Peebles] • Run - Ghostface Killah [ Hogin' Machine - Les Baxter] • Run 4 Cover - Method Man & Redman [Upon This Rock - Joe Farrell]
• Saian - The The RZA [Beware - Ann Peebles] • Samurai Showdown - The The RZA [Break Your Promise - Delfonics] • Save Me Dear - Ghostface Killah [Got What I Need - Freddie Scott] • School - Masta Killa [Good Times Show] • Secret Rivals - Masta Killa [House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals] • Serving Justice - Killarmy [The Lonely Shepherd - Zamfir] • Shadowboxin' - GZA/Genius ft. Method Man [Trouble, Heartaches and Sadness - Ann Peebles] • Shame On A n*gga (1) - Wu-Tang Clan [Different Strokes - Syl Johnson] • Shame On A n*gga (2) - Wu-Tang Clan [Black and Tan Fantasy - Thelonius Monk] • Shaolin Style - Shyheim [Settle For My Love - Patrice Rushen] • Shark n*ggaz [Biters] - Raekwon [Lonely Boy - Iron Butterfly] • Shimmy Shimmy Ya - Ol' Dirty Bastard [I Like It - The Emotions / Knocks Me Off My Feet - Stevie Wonder] • Shine - LA the Darkman [Vittroni's Theme (King is Dead) - Roy Ayers] • Shining Star - Sunz Of Man feat. Ol' Dirty Bastard [Shining Star - Earth, Wind & Fire] • Shit Is Grim - KGB [I've Been Watching You - Southside Movement] • Show N Prove - Inspectah Deck [Tune Up - The Dramatics] • Show You Love - The The RZA [I Hate I Walked Away - Syl Johnson] • Silverbacks - Masta Killa [I'll Play The Blues For You Part 1 - Albert King] • Simply Ludicrous - North Star ft. Black Knights [They Won't Go When I Go - Stevie Wonder] • Smith Brothers - Raekwon [Find the Way - The Impressions] • Smuggling Booze in the Graveyard - Warcloud [Please Mr. Postman - Marvelettes] • Snakes - Ol' Dirty Bastard [I'll Never Do You Wrong / Papa Was Too - Joe Tex] • Snuffed Out - Method Man ft. Streetlife [So Tired - Chambers Brothers] • Slang Editorial - Cappadonna [When You Took Your Love From Me - OV Wright / Here I Am - Al Green] • So Long - Shyheim [I Wanna Be Where You Are - Jackson 5] • Soldiers Of Darkness - Sunz Of Man ft. Killarmy [A Theme From Love Story - Homer Louis Randolph III] • Soul In the Hole - Wu-All Stars (Wu-Tang Killa Beez) [Wildflower - Creative Source] • Sometimes Faces - Buddah Monk [Smiling Faces Sometime - Undisputed Truth] • Spazzola - Method Man feat. Raekwon & others [Call Me - Aretha Franklin] • Splish Splash - Cappadonna [It's My Thing - Marva Whitney / Ain't No Sunshine - Lyn Collins] • Spring Water - La The Darkman feat. Raekwon [Joy And Pain - Maze Ft. Frankie Beverly] • Stay True - Ghostface Killah [Terri's Tune - David Axelrod] • Stand Strong - Dom Pachino [When Something Is Wrong With My Baby - Kim Weston] • Stand Up - Pop da Brown Hornet [Caravan of Love - The Isley Brothers] • Strange Eyes - Sunz Of Man [I Heard The Love Chimes - Syl Johnson] • Strawberries & Cream - Mathematics ft. Wu-Tang Clan & Allah Real [Storm In The Summertime - David Porter] • Street Monopoly - Killarmy [Water Lilies / Work The Rat - Shiva Burlesque] • Street War - Black Knights [I Wish You Were Here With Me - Al Green] • Supermodel - Cappadonna ft. Ghostface Killah [Jealous Love - Wislon Pickett] • Swingin' Swords - Killarmy [Swing Brother Swing - Count Basie & Billie Holliday]
• Tai Chi - Killah Priest [Don't Leave Me This Way - Thelma Houston] • Takin' Up Space - Wu-Tang Killa Beez ft. Solomon Childs & Lord Superb [Your Taking Up Another Man's Space - Mable John] • Tear The Roof Off - Method Man & Redman [Give Up The Funk - Parliament] • Tearz - Wu-Tang Clan [After Laughter (Comes Tears) - Wendy Rene] • Tease - Method Man [Cause I Love You - Lenny Williams] • That Shit - Inspectah Deck [Lazy Susan - The Spinners] • The Birth - The The RZA [Poverty's Paradise - 24 Karat Black] • The Cause - Inspectah Deck ft. Streetlife [Smiling Faces Sometimes - Undisputed Truth] • The Ceremony - Dom Pachino [Godfather Theme - Nino Rota] • The Cookout - Killarmy [Godfather Theme - Nino Rota] • The Forest - Ghostface Killah [Ballad Of Mathiea - The Impressions] • The Genius is Slammin - GZA/Genius [LA Jazz Song - Booker T & the MGs] • The Grain - Ghostface Killah ft. The RZA [Do The Funky Penguin - Rufus Thomas] • The Grits - Cappadonna [Lagrimas - Dark Latin Groves] • The Grunge - Cappadonna [Looking Out My Window - Tom Jones] • The Hilton - Ghostface Killah [Maria - Jackson Five] • The Jump Off - Wu-Tang Clan [Oh, Pretty Woman - Albert King] • The Man - Masta Killa ft. Superb [Easin It - Edwin Starr] • The Night the Earth Cried (G-Clef Remix) - Gravediggaz [Going the Distance - Bill Conti] • The Odessey - The RZA as Bobby Digital [The Took Of Love - Isaac Hayes] • The Odd Couple - Ghostface Killah & Cappadonna [Just Memories - Eddie Kendricks] • The Plan - Sunz of Man [I'm Gonna Tear Your Playhouse Down - Ann Peebles] • The Soul Controller - Ghostface Killah [A Change Is Gonna Come - Sam Cookes] • The Splash (No, No, No) - Ghostface Killah [You Dont Love Me (No No No) - Dawn Penn] • The Stereotype - Inspectah Deck [Evil Ways - Stanley Turrentine] • The Struggle - Black Market Militia [Babylon Is Fallen - Steel Pulse] • The Table - Raekwon ft. Masta Killa [Field Of Tears - Chris Spheeris] • The Turn - Method Man [Where Are You Going My Love - The Miracles] • The Whistle - The The RZA [Daydream - Bernard Wystraete] • The Watch - Ghostface Killah [I'm Gonna Love You Just A Bit More Baby - Barry White] • The Writer - 9th Prince [Theme from Exodus - Liberace] • Theodore - Ghostface Killah [40.000 Headsmen - Booker T And The MGs] • Thieves in Da Night - Shabazz The Disciple [Laura - Collage] • Things Happen - Shyheim [That's Just My Luck - Syl Johnson] • Think Market - Black Market Militia [Castle Walls - Styx] • Throw Ya Flag Up - The The RZA [Troubles, Heartaches, & Sadness - Ann Peebles] • Toney's Money - Ghostface Killah [Here Comes the Sun - Eugene Record] • Tooken Back - Ghostface Killah [Take Me Back - The Emotions] • Tragedy - The The RZA [Here Comes The Rain Again - Eurythmics] • Tribulations - Sunz Of Man [Chocolate Girl - The Whispers] • Trouble Man - Inspectah Deck [Joy - Isaac Hayes / Long Red (Live) - Mountain] • Turn Around - Killah Priest [Total Eclipse Of My Heart - Bonnie Tyler] • Tush Tush (Push, Push) - Ghostface Killah [Best Of Both World - Naked Truth]
• Wake-Up - Killarmy [Walkaway Theme (Incredible Hulk) - Joe Harnell] • Walkin' Thru The Darkness - Ghostface Killah ft. Tekitha [Across 110th Street - Bobby Womack] • Wantz & Needs - Pop da Brown Hornet [Knucklehead - Grover Washington Jr.] • Warriors Drum - King Just [Big Beat - Billy Squier] • Weary Eyes - Wu-Syndicate [Dolphins Lullaby - Firefall] • We Made It - Ghostface Killah ft. Superb [I Hate I Walked Again - Syl Johnson] • We the People - Hell Razah [In the Hour - Melanie] • What Part of the Game - Killah Priest ft. Ras Kass [Getting On Board - John Ottman] • Whatever We Want - Killarmy [This Masquerade - George Benson] • What Thugs Do - La The Darkman [What People Do - Divine Sounds] • What's Happening - Method Man [Dum Maro Dum - Asha Bhosle] • What's Ya Position - Dom Pachino [MacArthur Park - Donna Summer] • When the Fat Lady Sings - GZA/Genius [Prelude to a Heartbreak - The Montclaires] • Where I Rest At - Killarmy [Part Time Love - Gladys Knight & The Pips] • Which Way You Goin? - Killarmy [My Funny Valentine - The Stylistics] • Who Are We? - Theodore Unit [Scooby Doo Theme] • Wicked Wayz - Sunz of Man [When You Took Your Love From Me - OV Wright] • Wicked With Lead - Theodore Unit [Spoonie is Back - Spoonie Gee] • Winter Warz - Ghostface Killah ft. Wu-Tang Clan [I Think I'd Do It - ZZ Hill] • Woodrow The Basehead - Ghostface Killah [All Your Goodies Are Gone - Parliament] • Word on the Street - Inspectah Deck [What would I do used for - Ernie Hines] • Wu-Banga 101 - Ghostface Killah ft Wu-Tang Clan [Queen Of Tears - Gladys Knight And The Pips] • Wu-Blood Kin - La The Darkman [Something - Al Green] • Wu Gambinos - Raekwon [I Like It - The Emotions] • Wu-Tang Ain't Nuthin' Ta F' Wit - Wu-Tang Clan [Underdog - Allen Toussaint Orchestra] • Wu-Wear : Garment Renaissance - The RZA, Method Man & Capaddona [Don't Take My Kindness For Weakness - Soul Children] • Wu World Order - The The RZA ft. LA The Darkman [It Ain't Easy - Syl Johnson]
• Yall Been Warned - Wu-Tang Clan [In My Heart - Barbara & The Browns] • You - Method Man & Redman [Electric Relaxation - A Tribe Called Quest] • You'll Never Know - The The RZA ft Cilvaringz [Do You Want To Know A Secret - The Beatles] • Young Brothaz - Wu-Syndicate [Danger She's a Stranger - Five Stairsteps]
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posted Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:52:22 PM i dont mind the loop element cos there is still a good dj ear for knowing what would make an ill song and getting teh drums and bass to sound big is his speciality.
my problem is he aint the one looping the samples some other dude is looping it up programming the drums and giving him the multi tracks to mix.
if he dont like a certain part he gets someone to amend it, its a good hustle but i dont rate him as highly as a beat maker but he just a visionary dude
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Da Chef
Total Posts: 4 Member Since: 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD
posted Friday, October 30, 2009 2:11:03 AM Dre, Primo, and dilla 3 of the greatest of all time...I recommend studying and listening to all 3...they all evolved the production game... Dre's the one I idolize the most though...
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eMiNeNT D0M@iN
Total Posts: 131 Member Since: 2009 Location: GeNtrifiC@ti0n
posted Friday, October 30, 2009 11:25:52 AM ominous Glad you could figure it out.
I've always checked for Dre, but loops = best ever?
It makes me wonder if this is really what Dre is capable of w/o biting something, or having a real musician play something. He probably didn't even played the strings. I'm thinking Dre had the drums, and bells. Then he called Storch to finish it up.
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AudioAnarchy09
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posted Monday, November 02, 2009 8:38:39 PM
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sicklykid
Total Posts: 441 Member Since: 2009 Location: dick hertz
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:51:29 AM thats cuz you are all beatmaking geekboys that look at the technical side of things cuz ur mind is stuck in that aspect
untrain your fuckin heads becuz most people don't make beats and know what a chop is, they just wanna hear somethin that sounds good and most of the times loops sound a million times better and flow smoother than a chopped up sample
so go continue making underground choppy beats that only a tiny audience of listeners like which is why you will stay broke
loser fucks
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BillCa$h
Total Posts: 530 Member Since: 2001 Location: your moms bedroom
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:35:17 AM Dre sucks. Really, no skills involved at all. If only he wouldn't take loops with actual drums and bass on them.... I've done it like 2 times and didnt't felt like I was creating something.. even felt guilt.
Honestly, if I hear a beat and it sounds good it's ok I don't mind really but I would never be able to do that... and would never give props to the "producer" even though I like the song.
posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:10:04 PM 
