Topic: Omg...you Lame Jacks Actually Thought This Was A Game....
peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 10/28/2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:02:29 AM i am the best producer on this board. Move over. I am the master of your mind.
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mike vee
Total Posts: 1211 Member Since: 2/8/2007 Location: Los Agneles
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:42:29 AM out of key, garbage mix
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suchanec
Total Posts: 1779 Member Since: 9/24/2007 Location: ch state of mind
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:06:31 AM you and chauncey should put a whole album together that is out of key
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BillCa$h
Total Posts: 519 Member Since: 2001 Location: your moms bedroom
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:39:46 PM garbage.
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:15:39 PM you faggots need to learn music theory. .........
In music, dissonance is the quality of sounds which seems "unstable", and has an aural "need" to "resolve" to a "stable" consonance. Both consonance and dissonance are words applied to harmony, chords, and intervals and by extension to melody, tonality, and even rhythm and metre. Although there are physical and neurological facts important to understanding the idea of dissonance, the precise definition of dissonance is culturally conditioned — definitions of and conventions of usage related to dissonance vary greatly among different musical styles, traditions, and cultures. Nevertheless, the basic ideas of dissonance, consonance, and resolution exist in some form in all musical traditions that have a concept of melody, harmony, or tonality.
Additional confusion about the idea of dissonance is created by the fact that musicians and writers sometimes use the word dissonance and related terms in a precise and carefully defined way, more often in an informal way, and very often in a metaphorical sense ("rhythmic dissonance"). For many musicians and composers, the essential ideas of dissonance and resolution are vitally important ones that deeply inform their musical thinking on a number of levels.
Despite the fact that words like "unpleasant" and "grating" are often used to explain the sound of dissonance, in fact all music with a harmonic or tonal basis — even music which is perceived as generally harmonious — incorporates some degree of dissonance. The buildup and release of tension (dissonance and resolution), which can occur on every level from the subtle to the crass, is to a great degree responsible for what many listeners perceive as beauty, emotion, and expressiveness in music.
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suchanec
Total Posts: 1779 Member Since: 9/24/2007 Location: ch state of mind
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:19:27 PM no you need to learn what sounds good and what sounds like garbage
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BillCa$h
Total Posts: 519 Member Since: 2001 Location: your moms bedroom
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:27:07 PM What's the scientific term for garbage?
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urbin1k
Total Posts: 99 Member Since: 2005 Location: Sin City, Las Vegas, Nv U.S.A
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:32:06 PM So...music theory = fact?
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:38:44 PM no....none of my low ends are dissonant. Only my high end of EACH sample.
"Consonance has been defined variously through: With ratios of lower simple numbers being more consonant than those which are higher...."
Every sample I using in this piece, and I use 10, has conssonat low in bases and tenor registors. MY high ends are discordant. I do that for all my music that seems out of tune.
You know its true.
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:40:47 PM urbin.... music theory's been refined for thousand of years. That is more credible than some internet beatmaker saying the shit is out of tune when it obviously is not.
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chuckbronson
Total Posts: 408 Member Since: 2004
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:50:09 PM why on earth would i ever elect to listen to that
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:54:26 PM its not even hip-hop....it is electro. IF you don't like electro in general you will not feel this.
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blackchyld
Total Posts: 637 Member Since: 3/5/2007 Location: wherever I wanna be knucka..
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:57:48 PM Chauncey
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:03:09 PM chauncey died yesterday
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Revilleslap
Total Posts: 276 Member Since: 2009 Location: "At 6:00 eastern time, I bitch slapped my mom."-man80
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:06:43 PM zzzzz
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suchanec
Total Posts: 1779 Member Since: 9/24/2007 Location: ch state of mind
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:22:37 PM grumble had a good point in the beat thread.. some of your beats start out good, but you're always off key when you add stuff. I really couldn't give a fuck less about music theory it has to sound good and you're stuff sometimes starts out good, but you just get too off key...
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skrolz
Total Posts: 194 Member Since: 2003 Location: Silver Spring
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:12:55 PM i LOVE the direction you're going in (prolly cause im in the same boat). The sounds are dope as hell. I love me some reverb and delay. super experimental = sick shit...
... but the cohesiveness needs to be worked on. Seperately, the sounds are on point. I would just increase the quality control when layering them and putting them together.
otherwise, keep it up.
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:00:13 PM suchanec.... i just been listening to a lot of hardbop and fusion jazz lately. You know, like Charles Mingus, Miles, Thelonious. Dissonance is standard in those genres. The first thing you n*ggaz say is..."oh, thats out of tune, that sounds bad" You got to realize something doesn't sound bad simply because it is out of tune. Something sounds bad because it is not good music. I've came to this conclusion. You people don't like it simply because it is out of tune. But I intentionally created that discordant and it always resolves.
My music is just ahead of its time. I undertand if you don't like it. Experimentation is not for the simple.
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suchanec
Total Posts: 1779 Member Since: 9/24/2007 Location: ch state of mind
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:46:28 PM If you're so ahead of your time, how come you're trying to imitate the stuff you listen to? It sounds bad because it's jumbled, mixed horribly and a poor choice of instruments/samples in addition to it being out of tune.
You can be an elitist "my music is good because it only appeals to people who choose to listen to it", like you are.. and still make garbage beats. There's a reason almost every review you have had ever on this board says that your mixes are bad. And it's not because anyone is simple..
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:51:58 PM my mixes are bad because i mix on a single speaker that I got from goodwills. I am more focused on my musicianship which is unmatched on this board.
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suchanec
Total Posts: 1779 Member Since: 9/24/2007 Location: ch state of mind
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:54:34 PM no your mixes are bad because you're bad at it. Plenty of people mix on weak ass speakers.
EQ mixed on sony mdr v150 headphones, twenty bucks at wal-mart.
You blame everyone/everything else
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:57:52 PM no.....my mixes are bad because i don't give a fuck about mixing.
I know how to mix though. Shit is boring. I don't be wanting to do it.
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suchanec
Total Posts: 1779 Member Since: 9/24/2007 Location: ch state of mind
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:33:16 PM sounds like you're the simple one then.
But hey, at least your songs will be edgy, have dissonance, and a bad mix, all of which make you the best "musician" on this board lol
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BEATSMITH
Total Posts: 970 Member Since: 2008
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:19:43 PM That beat is fucking terrible.if you're gonna use that clap put another fucking clap or snare with it atleast.
You inovative cunt,you.
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:08:11 PM BEATSMITH....why? So it can sound like everyone elses.
Hence, you not being a successful producer.
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:10:14 PM i like it.. its not the sounds..the sounds are cool...its the mix..
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:22:38 PM the problem with cats on this board is that they are so busy concerned with mixing and convention. My shit is rugged like rza on dmt niccaz. I am concerned with concepts first. I could always so down the street and pay a n*gga 25$ to mix my shit. But musicianship is what makes good music. If the musicianship is not there you will never get good. No matter how good your mix is.
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suchanec
Total Posts: 1779 Member Since: 9/24/2007 Location: ch state of mind
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:30:14 PM rza's shit was in key though, even if he didn't have the best mixes.
Either step up your mixes or make your shit in key otherwise no one will be interested in your instrumentals.
Skrolz and I listen to eachother's beats a lot. He's a lot more experimental than me, and less conventional, but I like his stuff. Guess why, his mixes are decent and his shit is in key...
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:40:06 AM this is how u experiment
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:47:19 AM suchanec you are such a dumbass. Rza use to be ALL off key. You just don't know rza. Actually, ALL good music break chord and scale structure. Perfect consonance is synonymous with happy gay music. Dissonance is synonymous with dark, grime shit. That is why you music sounds so wack. Because you try to use perfect consonance. I know, i've studied this shit all my life. Why do you think there are pentatonic scales and how do you think jazz scales were introduced. You are proving you know nothing about music.
Yeah, I could make a beat like this which sons anything you are capable of doing...
...or I could make a extremely conventional be like this...
...but get what? I am not playing it safe. I am experiement. Your whole stance is make the shit on key? My question is WHY?
In addition.... a lot of people like my shit. Even if it is experimental.
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:50:13 AM see that is the thing about a lot of white musicians. They are SSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOO fucking conventional. That why they only created country....and leadbelly created that really.
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mike vee
Total Posts: 1211 Member Since: 2/8/2007 Location: Los Agneles
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:23:32 AM everyone thinks you suck, and you gotta argue that you are good, what does that mean? are you going to include a section on music theory when your music is released along with a printed argument of why it doesn't suck? Do you think this will sway the masses?
also if you don't think your music style belongs on this board then why do you return 100000 times like a little BITCH craving attention? You got serious issues. Did your uncle use your forehead for a sperm target or something?
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:39:34 AM mike vee... you are such a cracker. My beats are highly original and contrary I do have a fanbase. Post your release n*gga.
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mike vee
Total Posts: 1211 Member Since: 2/8/2007 Location: Los Agneles
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:43:21 AM I've had production and recording credits on MAD releases including collaborations with very popular artists.
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peace_da_god
Total Posts: 87 Member Since: 2009 Location: new york
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:57:09 AM n*gga so have i. what your points. I said let me see them.
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mike vee
Total Posts: 1211 Member Since: 2/8/2007 Location: Los Agneles
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:08:28 AM you haven't done shit but sit on these boards craving attention for 2 years..you can't even mix...you a gay re-run
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BillCa$h
Total Posts: 519 Member Since: 2001 Location: your moms bedroom
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:16:14 AM Damn, those 2 beats are the epitome of gayness.
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suchanec
Total Posts: 1779 Member Since: 9/24/2007 Location: ch state of mind
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:30:17 AM chauncey no you haven't. You've had production credits on visual crack. You've had production credits on the album,
"I still live at home with my parents and drink heineken when i'm not shopping at j. crew try and make philosophical and technical excuses for my beats are garbage."
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KasiRocsWell
Total Posts: 27 Member Since: 2009
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:39:18 AM I'm not really a fan of electronica or whatever but the orchestration isn't terrible...just some of the frequencies sound like they have a lot going on in a small space. if it's not hop-hop why the fuck is it here....just an introspective question one should ask before posting shit on the forums...in my experience sir, things that sound good, are in tune MOST OF THE TIME. You have to really bang some shit out to make me want to listen to an out of tune orchestration, this one was decent, but just didn't take it there for me, liked datn*gga's beats better, sorry to say, and that was just some experimental shit I would imagine, anyway don't give up, and don't try to convince me of your greatness...the work speaks for itself. PEACE
-Kasi RocsWell
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sckitzo
Total Posts: 2446 Member Since: 2002 Location: Im all reason now
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:08:05 PM Id actually had out with Chauncey.I genuinely like the kid(pause)
datn*ggabeon1 beats aren't bad at all either.
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:25:35 PM ^^^^^thx..when ever i go to my folks crib(hardly ever) i make a couple of beats on his fruity loops..
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:37:33 PM peace da god..the last beat isnt mine..the mc battle forum sent me a beat to do a song to..the first beat's intro was to another song i did..i kept the drums and the bpms and changed it to a more smooth beat.
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:03:12 PM ya and my gurl goes to school for art..so she's always on art websites and saving stuff on her cpu..so i just used the stuff she has
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grumble
Total Posts: 3752 Member Since: 2003 Location: NY ... grumbs dot com
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:20:48 PM chauncey no disrespect but mad heads are trying to give you advice...and every single time you write a page on why they are wrong and why you are great... you're not gonna make good beats that way...
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mike vee
Total Posts: 1211 Member Since: 2/8/2007 Location: Los Agneles
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:01:55 PM HAHAH there he goes again with the false modesty..fuckin DOUCHEBAG
"^^thx..when ever i go to my folks crib(hardly ever) i make a couple of beats on his fruity loops.."
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:28:26 PM ya..i dont have fruity loops idiot...get on ya own grind and stop stopping the movement of this traffic,,pull over b4 u get blurped for dozing off at the wheel
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mike vee
Total Posts: 1211 Member Since: 2/8/2007 Location: Los Agneles
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:11:39 PM im on my grind son....i got a studio with gear you probably never heard and definetly never used... of and over 10 years experience of beat making and mixing. I've recorded and mixed people that you probably sweat....starting like 8 years ago on that tip.
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:06:23 PM ^^^^^i don t make beats..i dont rap on my beats, i dont sell beats...i rap..and if i did take beat making seriously then i would make better shit.....stop hating
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:18:44 PM Wu tang was right " lil nasty r&b n*ggaz" mike vee ya'll>>
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:21:42 PM
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datniggabeon1
Total Posts: 1986 Member Since: 2009 Location: give it 2 u ear 2 ear till u need mouth 2 mouth
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:29:19 PM ur myspace mike vee???wats up with that???? u have a dude about 17 with his shirt off on ya top friends???????
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mike vee
Total Posts: 1211 Member Since: 2/8/2007 Location: Los Agneles
posted Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:48:49 PM that's not me you fuckin retard
posted Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:02:29 AM 
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