Work School And Beats
how many of ya are doing this. I work 40 hours a week and got 10 hours at community college. how are yall doin it if you are.
About 18 hours of school, plus 30 hours of work per week. Not that bad... but I could do without both.
miclegacy, the music program here is pretty good... aside from the boring classes I'm required to take that are doing nothing for me...
I'm particularly pleased with the ear training and jazz piano teachers.. I'm taking pop song writing this semester, the guy who teaches it (Lou DeLise) supposedly has a lot of credentials in the industry, written some songs and commercials/tv & film music... the class unfortuneatly has a lot of beginner musicians who have very little background, so the class is moving slow... but hopefully it'll pick up....
within the next year a half I'mma be able to start taking more good classes, particularly music technology.
balancing shit is tough.
I had about two years of no woman and only part time work. I spent most of my time making beats, smoking, and skating. Pretty nice time, life was good.
Now I'm back at school studying my Masters, hooked up with a fine bird from uni, but barely touch the board or make beats 'cause I just don't have the time. Life's still good but in a different way. Haven't decided which lifestyle I prefer yet. I really miss the beats, but don't miss the weed much...to my surprise actually.
yo let me tell you my deal i went to pace university like 2 years ago and i was goin full time in manhattan and trying to party and bullshit and do my music without a job. basically i was just doin grimy little shit to make dough and all and bullshitin never went to class so i had to leave that did not help my music shit. then last year moved home and joined City Year an Americorp program where i gave back to the communtiy and all that good shit no seriously it was mad ill like i like shit like that. But doing all of that nd being dedicated left little time for me on the music thing cause i wasnt focused. Now i decided to work for a little and do my music thing so ive been on my grind tryin to make moves like it looks like something will happen soon but i dont know i pray. But gettin a job is really a bitch now so i guess i do music 24/7 but dont get paid for it lol.
But yo seriosly Big Lex you go to Temple how is there music school and all that shit. Oh and now i actually plan on leavin philly again and goin to New York cause im just not feelin mentally healthy here but thats all so i guess i can only do one thing at a time so right now it seems to be music
"Damn, you are down BigLex. About the only thing you can do with a music degree is teach those same classes that you are taking. Unless you know someone in the industry...But if thats the case, you will make it big anyway with or without the degree. It comes down to talent."
Yeah I dont plan on doing anything with my degree directly.. I'm basically here to learn and become a better musician and network... the degree for me is just kinda like a symbol that I passed once I graduate.. I dont plan on doing any teaching, at least not for now, maybe when I'm like 50 or something..
Being here has definitely accelerated my creativity and knowledge musically, especially my in theory, improving my ear, and on the keys, stuff I may not have learned as well if I was taking lessons or classes privately or outside of college.
phil- I go to Temple U in Philly.
Work 40 hours, get home about 5ish, WIfey goes to school from 6Pm-10PM Mon-Thu, so I have my two little rugrats during that time. They are 1 and 2 and I never let them in my lab (residue smoke and they love to fuck with the sliders on my digital recorder) so I have to wait until they sleep to gets some shit done. The good thing is Wifey is mad supportive of my music so on Friday after work and all Saturday and Sunday is fair game for me as far as music is concerned, so I mostly reserve Friday for pre production and tracking, Saturday and Sunday for recording. I make beats whenever,, mostly when I hit the lab after the kids are sleep, or if they dont go to sleep, after Wifey gets home. Its hard and I wish I had more time for music, but after Wifey gets done with school and is making that cash I will be able to do music whenever...but I find the time
I'm taking 18 units this semester by the time I get out I will owe $120,000. I am also addicted to the craft of beat making. I spend every extra minute making beats rather than studying. Sure I'm really fucking up but I have a passion and must satisfy my addiction. I feel I have no other option. Hopefully I can pay this shit back before I'm thirty.
"Damn, you are down BigLex. About the only thing you can do with a music degree is teach those same classes that you are taking. Unless you know someone in the industry..."
I don't agree with this statement . When you play a musical instrument schooling will accelerate your skill immensly . Whether you have style or not is a different story . But you can't tell me that a sick guitarist with style is not better than a shitty guitarist with style .
Props for taking music at school .
I took Audio Engineering at college , and sure I coulda learned it all myself by reading and trial and error but why ? I think my $15 grand invested was a good idea . It accelerated my learning to where I improved 600000% per year .
It took me 3 years to figure out cubase on my own . It took me 2 weeks to figure out a neve capircorn with an instructor .... School is never the wrong way in my opinion .
I'm taking 16 credits this semester. I'll be graduating in May with a bachelor of science in communications. Truthfully, I haven't gotten an internship yet. I'm thinking that I'm gonna have one of my industry connecs forge some shit for me so I can get the credit without actually doing it. I don't have a job. Selling beats was paying the bills for a while, but i'm in a dry spell right now. having said that, I still do mad shit, and my production resume just keeps getting bigger and bigger. The grind is definitely wearing on me though.
My mother's passing in late June kind of fucked my hustle up for a while, then I went through some illness for a while. It's just been like a big roller coaster ride, but I can tell that I'm en route to being seriously fucked up in the game real soon. I'm broke as a mothafuckin joke and working on a real long pussyless streak as well (3 months).
I find myself totally unfocused on school right now, and that's bad because I have a 3.9 GPA which I kind of need to maintain. I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna do with my degree. I do know I got some serious cash coming to me in the next couple of months and I plan on throwing most of it into the market. At least if I'm fucked up for the next few I can lean on my investments when I need them.
im just curious biglex...
where do you attend school?
im taking 13 units..with papers, homework, and studying i only have time on the weekend to work on beats..but on the weekends i spend all my time hangin with either one of these two chicks im with. so until x-mas break looks like i wont have that much time for beats..god i wish i didnt waste my summer
Damn, you are down BigLex. About the only thing you can do with a music degree is teach those same classes that you are taking. Unless you know someone in the industry...But if thats the case, you will make it big anyway with or without the degree. It comes down to talent.
But good luck with it all...I wish you the best.
" You can be a jack of all trades, but a master at none ".
I did the full time job/ School & beats for abut a year and half, and it physically & mentally drained me. I was working for a marketing company, so it was mad demanding, and I was going to school full time as well and failed like 1/2 of my classes, cuz I would go to sleep like at 4 am and wake up at 7:30 to go to work, then school,studio, and do it all over again.
Because I thought that I could handle it all, I screwed up my GPA, and have yet to get my ass out of Comm. College.
Since I've quit my job, I've been miserably Broke, but have accomplished more in terms of music/business in a year than in my entire career as a producer.
I have a little analogy that could sum up the whole full time school/work/beats situation:
" You can be a jack of all trades, but a master at none ".
If you want to truely excel, you need to choose your path and stick with it. Find a balance. I think , to be a truley great artist, you need great inspiration. Think about your daily routine, and how it affects your aspect on making beats. Just some food for thought.
Just do what makes you happy.
btw. I'm sittin here on the net at work & I have 2 chapters of reading & excercises due tomorrow morning. (engineering design principles)
If it weren't for my job, I would never have time for homework.
its funny though, cuz when u are pressed for time (with school, work, etc) u seem to value it more than when u have a lot of time on your hands.....
I'm taking just 2 college courses.
I have no job.
All my time is for beats, muthafuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
yeah.. 17 credits in college... but its really turns out to be about 25 hours a week for me being a music major...
I'm not working much.. few hours a week, I commend you for managing to work full time going to school and doing beats... but on top of working out 5x/week, college radio show twice a week, music ensembles, practicing keys (a little drums), and schoolwork its tough...and plan on getting an internship or 2 real soon... I realized recently I'm spreading myself out too much, and need to start cutting certain things out of my schedule and focusing on what it is I need to do in order to start getting somewhere..
Sometimes I contemplate whether or not I'm doing the right thing by being in college for a degree at all.. some of the classes, especially some of the music classes I'm required (Orchestration, Conducting, Counterpoint, Music History, Score Reading, Chorus) to take, are just getting in the way of what I'm trying to do, taking up my valuable time and many of them I KNOW I will not be useful to me... but I'm more than halfway done already, and out of 51 more credits, I have 26 of them open to take whatever I want, so I guess there is more for me to look forward to... there are some dope classes offered here (Composing Music for Film, Audio Production, MIDI, Sound Recording, CD Project).
as well as not using time 100% wisely.. chillin when I should be doing work... wasting time on the net (thanks in good part to this forum.. I do learn a lot here but also have tendencies to read more entertainment-oriented posts.. and okayplayer's The Lesson, I had to quit that- last school year I'd spend an hour or more a day sometimes just on that board alone... mad heads there worked on computers during the day and would spend their downtime their... and would type a lot of interesting stuff and I'd learn about all types of music... but didnt realize it was stagnating my progress.
I'm tyring tho... time is of the essence and I dont have any to waste.
Myself I havent spent time on beats in a minute.. being that my money supply is getting close to zero I'm getting to work in preparing myself to be able to start spinning at parties again for money, which once done will open up more time to get to work on beats (and bring in much needed money)..
Got a good amount of technical work production-wise before I can get back to making tracks... gotta chop up all the drum sound cds I've acquired, sort them, sample them into my ASR... learn my ASR-10, which I've had for almost a year... and learn how to sequence on the computer with Sonar, Cakewalk, Fruity Loops, Logic, Cubase or Magix..
i got school plus an online music technology course...not as bad as you but it's hard findin time for beats...