Better producer: dre or primo ??
i say rza hands down.dre is so overated in my opinion ..and the fact that cats is saying that he`s actually doper than rza gets me steamed ...considering rza produced about 6 classic albums within 4 years[at least beat wise]36,tical,return to 36,cuban linx,liquid swordz,iron man.I all ready know u guys dont be feelin rza ..4 whatever reason-but i have to ask ..can u actuallt say dre is better ??!!!!??.I mean he`s made some ill beats ..like:nuttin but a g thang,straight outta compton,dre day,etc. but rza he`s made joints like:the mystery of chessboxing,proteck ur neck[my favorite jam of all time],shimmy shimmy ya,bring the pain,liquid swordz,criminology,wu-gambino`s,black jesus,winta warz,all i need,triumph,raw hide,release yo delf,and many more ill beats.how can u front ..not only is he in the primo-pete rock-prince paul category of ill producers ...he`s also a ill emcee ...something i cant say about dre.peace
My personal opinion on Primo is that he's starting to fall off. There's only so many times you can do the same beats and only so many different people you can do them for. One thing that really distinguished Primo before the last two years or so (when everyone's wack LP has a premier track) was the fact that he worked with mcs who were *sick*. Guru, Jeru, KRS-One, etc..
Now, it seems like he works with any wack MC with the money to pay for a beat. Now, it's good that he's getting paid, but a lot of the stuff he's coming out with now is better than most people's beats but are nothing compared to the beat for say "the ? remainz" or "suckaz need bodygaurds"..
the rza wants you to think his shit is over your head...he straight talks out of his ass these days. He was dope, but he has definitely fallen o
Primo is the best for his consistency alone...he's been at it way longer than sloppy digital and hasn't let us down yet. He'a the shit and he's gonna rip the Oakland Arena on Friday with Rage Against the MAchine
BEST PRODUCER ALL TIME: Ced G -of Ultramagnetic
everyone else sucks - Bobby Bobby Digi Digi
What Dre did back in the day was unprecedented. The way he put tracks together, no one could touch that. Don't get me wrong, Primo is dope, Rza was cool, but they're not fucking with Dre's catalog.
How can anyone put cats like Alchemist, Kurt, or PB Wolf in a category of greatest producers of all time?
GREATEST OF ALL TIME:
Marley Marl (you youngsters don't know)
BEST RIGHT NOW(in no particular order)
Don't make me get up in this shit.
aight - on the topic of DRE.
Maybe i'm the only one who MAKES BEATS on here, so i can say that most of the beats on Chronic and DoggyStyle, were basically just unchopped samples, that is to my memory, i'm sure there were some that weren't, but i'm sure there were some that were. And the beats on eminem's were shit for the most part.
Dre is nowhere near touching RZA. and whoever said Killa Beez was shit...you need to listen to it again, anyway, he didn't even make most of the beats.
And wu-tang forever had a lot of ill beats, along with all the wu-members solos. And did yall hear the shyheim tracks? especially the one with Big L. C'mon now.
And Bobby Digital was too advanced for the common man. Shit is unphaseable.
But primo is better, primo is my personal influence for getting into production.
Dre is a mediocre producer at best.
Dre will never, I say NEVER gain the credibility Primo has. The greatest of all time, all motherfuckin time...Premier..no doubt. Dre makes west-coast beats and thats it...his last beats have sucked horses dick!
Eminem LP beats were fucking hopeless, Cronic 2001 is fuckin gay, Rza was dope back in the day, Bobby Digital just fucked up. Primo forever....
Peanut Butter Wolf
Dre, Primo, RZA
You must be crazy lg...
Straight Outta Compton lp
Livin Like Hustlers lp (he co-produced it)
No One Can Do It Better lp
100 Miles and Runnin ep
The Chronic lp
All these are fucking classics.
Plus Doggystyle and Dre 2001 are not
bad at all. How can you say Dre's best
beats are the beats he did on Eminem's
album??? this must be a joke. Or you
started listening to hiphop 1 year ago, if
so I ain't mad at you. peace.
Wu-Tang forever, did have some ill beats. The killa beez album sucked shit. 36 was oblivosly the best. I dont think dre has made any good beats. Hes a couple, the ones he produced for Em were pretty good, but besides that, hes shit. Rza as I was saying created some ill beats in his day, but hasnt shown anything spectacular lately and as far as lyricist, he okay. his flow is sorta fucked up though, most of the time, flows off time with the beat.
Rza still rising?
I guess he's so high I can't see him anymore...hmmm.
Are you talking about the RZA I know?? Ever heard of BOBBY DIGITAL? Rza's quality is not rising it's dercreasing. What was the last truely good Wu Album?
I agree. Dre was ill back in the day. But now he just lost it. All the beats he was meant to make, he made already. He has nothing else to produce. In the other hand, RZA, is still rising, always making them ill beats along with the other ill producers (to much to name).
Well you sorta messed up on the Dre vs Primo topic there, but who cares..
I like Rza's production a lot more than Dre's. Rza is a lot more innovative. I don't really like any of these bouncy beats Dre makes now. Maybe I'm just biased..