F*ck 5% and god bodies....im in the 95 percentile.....F*ck Pro Black!!
im drunk but my true feelings get expressed durring these prescious moments....
ok....its seems i always get into it at a show or sometwhere with a god body or 5%....5%'s are cooler to me than god bodies...thopse gyuy are staright dickheads...anyway....thye talk aboout original man bullshit...who cares...we are all the fucken same...i dont give a fuck...honestly...usually i tell em....since your the original..i guess im the more advanced version of t\man then.....i catch a beatdown now an then for but fuck it......
they dont listen...
anfd the pro black shit...man thats some BS....I guess you could say im pro black thoug.....but im also pro white, blue, red, purple, aquamarine, burnt sienna, and magenta.....im pro human....basically.....to me pro black shit comes off as racist....i know my forfathers might have been racist but fuck it...my mom always said...."2 wrongs dont make a right"......
peace...please reply and say im dumb...
ps..i know sme mofo is gonna reply and say "you're dumb"
White people have a weak directionless culture(not lives) and it's dying. Maybe that's why so many are turning to other cultures not just black but asian as well. maybe it's just because these cultures are different but maybe it gets deeper than that. White culture is what most would call mainstream culture right, and just about everyone agrees that mainstream culture just waters down black, asian, etc. cultures subjugating them & shaping them to fit a more acceptable norm, soooo...
"Culture is simply how one lives and is connected to history by habit." -- Amiri Baraka
I feel as you do, except I do want to stress that the NOI is:
- racist, and
I really don't see what thy do that's positive. I mean is turning a drug-dealer in to an organized bigot a good thing?
A bunch of pampered 15 year old white boys are not going to understand what being pro-black means. You need only to know the history of race relations to understand how very vital being pro-black is.
Example: For centuries in the Western World, to be black was considered an insult--black hair was looked at as ugly, African facial features were considered grotesque, black skin was a downright sin (in public that is. This belies the fact that it was basically open season for white men to rape black women. Just as an aside, this points out some obvious subconscious doubts about the black is ugly nonsense). At different times in this century--sometimes during the Harlem Renaissance but more noticeably during the Black Power movement--black features such as non-straightened hair an darker skin were recognized as beautiful. Is this racist, you fucking dolts? Similarly, is it racist to recognize beauty in black art--visual, music, literary, etc.--when we have generally been brainwashed by the Western world to believe that these arts are inferior to white European an American stanards?(until, of course, the art is appropriated and bastardized).
NOI is Not necessarily the same thing as being pro-black. I am definitely not down with their mythology (or that of any particular religion), but you must understand the current situation facing blacks in America. With all the problems we face, dealing with drugs, alcohol, families, education, unemployment, health, etc., organizations like the NOI actually help to clean up entire segments of the community, and point many black men in a positive direction in many ways. This is why many of us are accepting of the group on the whole, even if we totally abhor much of their teachings or some of their representatives and leaders.
i shoulda said america...
meaning it's already geared to the benefits of white... so there is no need to go out of your way to be pro-white... it's already there, isn't it?
but what is pro-white anyway? what do whites have in common w/ each other, other than skin color... is there a white culture? (i guess some people would say the same about black culture, but i dunno...)
"The whole world is pro white" ?What sens give you to "white" ?
do you know who said "religion is a crutch for the weak minded?"
well that was Jesse "the mind" Ventura... he just said it like a few weeks ago and it caused a furor... anyway. maybe he stole it from somewhere but i haven't heard about that yet...
anyway... what does "pro-Black" mean anyway? that you are "for Black" and not "against" it, right? i always thought of it was the opposite of "anti-Black"... which seems like a positive thing to me. it's unfair to lump all who consider themselves pro-Black into one big club that includes people like Khalid-Muhammed...
i don't know if this is a good analogy, but it reminds me of somebody saying something like, "well a lot of klan members are republican... so republicans are white supremacists"...
(i'm not republican)
okay then you have people who say, "well if you're gonna be pro-black, i'm gonna be pro-white..." well what the hell is pro-white? the whole world is pro-white...
Yo, go back and peep out your history, the history of all man on this planet. Life started in what is called Africa. This is a fact. This does not mean black people have super powers or anything, but it is the truth. As far as someones life being useless, that depends on the individual, not their place of origin, skin color or religion. What do you mean by the lagoon remark. Are you referring to the theory of human life evolving from the water or are you lost in your own wisdom, drowning in ignorance.
Rolla L i dont beleive black man is the original man but even if they are what does that mean are u better then me or anyone else. allot of blACKS SAY THAT CUZ THEY FEEL THERE LIVES ARE USELESS OS THEY SAY THERE ORIGINAL MAN SO THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TOO IN THERE USELESS LIVES,
p.s. I BELEIVE KILLAH PRIEST WHEN HE SAYS THE ORIGINAL MAN HE LOOKS LIKE HE JUST CAME OUT OF A LAGOON
All people need knowledge of themself. Don't speak on stuff you know nothing about, the Gods speak a lot of truth, as do a lot of so-called radical groups. Blacks are the original man on this planet, point blank, but this also means the original devil was a black man. Devils come in every color, they are the people that speak on subjects they really don't know about and spread falsehood. Don't be a Devil. If you act like the Devil, you are the Devil. We came to this sight to Build on hip-hop, not Destroy!
There's a difference between being pro-black and being a black nationalist/supremacist or a member of a racist religion. I know many people that are "pro-black" [which is a really vague term]but are not elitists or supremacist in any way.
I really see very little difference in the Nation of Islam and the World Church of the Creator. Both groups bastardized racist sects of already racist religions. They are both authoritarian and fascist. They're both about hate and an illogical pride in their "race" [they both think that someone's "race" makes them ipso facto an evil person, or -in the case of the NOI- not a person at all but an invention of an evil uberman].
The Nation of Gods and Earths is just as pathetic as any other religion [because almost all of them have an unspoken mantra of supremacy], except they let everybody know just what they think of anybody that doesn't follow their foolish, garbled, pseudo-intellectualism.
One thing though, I try not to blame any of the above. They join these groups usually because they are from disenfranchised communities and those groups offer them a sense of power [in moral aand racial superiority] so they take it. It, again, is the power structures that create such conditions that deserve attack, as well as, the institutions themself.
You can to be pro Black and not a motherfucking member of the nation of islam.
There are Whites or Yellow or Latino pro Blacks , you feel me,there are not racism behind.
Same if to be pro Black is contradictory (the proselytism = always contradicion ,contradiction = always bullshit) ,to be pro Black isn't bad.
They are just confused.To mistake the human behaviour with the skin isn t the good way ,the force isn t here.
typical postcolonial discourse for the melanin deficient.
G-BAttle ~ Poisoned Ivy
BRUCE! that's the other line I had on the tip of my tongue... that was Marx. Wasn't it "opium of the people (or masses) tho?
"Religion is the opiate of the masses."- it was either Lennin(sp?) (no not John Lennon) or Marx i forget which, but it is very true..
hey.........the thing is...i know people who are "pro blac" whp are very smart.... yet beacaue they are pro black are so damn effin ignorant.....its to un standible......not even a word but you know.........
the thing about religion thougn....im really too young to decide what is right w\anfd wha the fuck is my purpose...you know????? that comes with age an wisom/...im 18 witha maturity level and looks of a14 years old...hoestly...no joke...i will email you opic if you really dont bealive...lo...for real though....to me....its either the fact that is the cool thing to do or they ran out of "real" shit to day and that why they say pro black shit.....otr maybe they are just brain washed.......
so ur really sayin' fuck the NIGGERS!!!!!!!!!
I agree logic, that shit is actually annoying. I'd like to see more people build on this subject so I'm going to attempt to play saviour by making it "Hip-Hop related" so it doesn't get taken down by asking all of you people who are in agreement what you think about KRS-one since he's always going on and ranting and raving about that "original man" garbage... especially on "Edutainment". Personally, it doesn't really get to me as much as having a 5 percenter or god body in your cypher babbling for hours about this bullshit. I can cope with it on KRS' records. Besides, I'm not gonna lie... it's got rhythm when KRS "preaches" it, so fuck it. It can still get irritating though... that stuff gets corny. I look at that shit as any other phony religion out there, and some guy (I forget his name) once said, "Religion is the crutch of the weak."... Damn, I love that line. No disrespect to any religious followers out there, all the people I love are religious, I just don't dig on it myself.
Weak- lacking physical and/or mental strength, energy, or vigor.