Hating the faq?
I remember not too long ago someone brought up the rap sample faq in a post. In response, many of you claimed to be opposed to the site, saying that they are violating...etc.
I personally dig the site and see nothing wrong with it. I use it as a resource to look up a record before I sample it to see if it has been used before. Of course I do realize that not every hip hop record is on the faq, but it has helped me in steer clear of some samples in the past. What do you think?
I don't have any problem with the FAQ.
Basically, imagine, an old jazz musician made a record, and sold, say, only, 40,000 units. Then you come along and loop something off it and it sells 2 million. The guy who made the original deserves credit and profits.
Now if he recorded the song that was sampled but he doesn't own the rights to the recording (the record company does), then he's not gonna get the money. The record company just takes the money and I can see where this is pretty fucked up.
But yes, you gotta realize, you can't expect to get away with taking something that does not belong to you. Sooner or later you will have to pay, in one way or another. (if not this life then the next - somebody's always watching).
You gotta make some kinda deal. If not you're just stealing someone else's music. Now if you're not making a profit and you're just giving it away that's different, but nobody's doing that. If you're making any money on it you're stealing.
Now I'm not saying I've never done it or that I won't do it anymore, I'm just saying that you can't expect to always get away with it. At some point the truth will reveal itself. If these guys weren't doing the FAQ there would be somebody else doing the same kinda thing. And they're not doing anything wrong - they're just telling the truth (as long as their sources are accurate). What would you call them, a snitch ? Well hey that's your problem if that's how you want to see things go ahead. It's like the guy that steals something at a party, and when he gets caught, he gets mad at the guy that caught him. And kicks his ass. I've seen that shit before. Funny, but actually very fucked up.
And yeah, I'll say it again, I'm gonna continue to sample all kinds of shit, and probably not clear most of it. But I can't get mad because somebody knows what song I sampled, I'm the one that sampled it !
And that shit that Premier said on the record, while I hear what he is saying, I wish it wasn't on there, I like that album a lot but don't put your business issues on a music album...just put the music please....
...also....try sampling extra rare indy records by artists NOBODY has ever heard of....and foreign!!!records, I'm telling you....far less chance of getting caught...PEACE
Shit is wack, son. Why don't we just start up a fuckin' "Hip Hop Cliff Notes" so any scrub who thinks he's the next Primo won't have to go through the motions and work for it like the rest of us had to. Shit is just as wack as those records that have the original songs and tells who sampled them. "Ya'll are violating. Straight up and down." No ifs, ands or buts. I been diggin' in the crates for over 12 years and I've made some hot shit. I never needed a fuckin' "sample this, don't sample this" website. Shit is retarded. But hey, maybe the site will have more worth when the Trivial Pursuit Hip Hop Edition comes out!
Who gives a fuck if labels get paid? I don't. Because of labels, a lot of creative music has been able to travel well outta their little residences to my boom box. As far as digging goes, if you're a real digger, and you feel this goes against what digging is about, don't look at the faq for sources of beats. But don't act like it serves no good purpose at all for other people.
And as far as rappers not clearing their shit, that's what they get for ripping people off. I personally have nothing against taking a loop and not paying for it, but if I do it and get caught, what am I gonna do about it? Bitch and moan? I shouldn't have played the game. I know the rules. Same for established rappers and producers.
The sample faq is some bullshit. sorry. First off-- a lot of the info in it is dead wrong. Then it's the same old story of beatheads who didn't clear shit getting fucked. You've heard it all before. It's common sense. When an artist doesnt clear a loop, the label finds out, the label gets paid. Why would you want to support this? As far as checking it to see if some one already used something you want to use.......well thats just bananas. Finding shit out on your own is one of the best parts of diggin / beatmaking.
I agree w/ Psypher. The Sample FAQ is a good reference for some hints on finding good music. For myself, and I'm sure for most, I like to listen to good funk and jazz so this list actually led me to discover some incredible artists.
There is nothing really true about an overused sample. No one said that you have to just hit start/stop and that's it. Tweak it until it represents how you feel about the track. Like Psypher stated, it's only clay...
Good outlook. Especially on an abstract improvisational jazz track. ie. Stomu Yamashta ...they are filled with solos and and little percussion sounds that by no means should be "off-limits" because someone has grabbed from it before.
I think it depends on what you intend to do with the sample. If you are afraid of looping the exact same sample someone else has used, then okay, but i don't see anything wrong with using samples from the same song, if you use them in a unique way. Plus you may listen to the same album and find a little snippet or piece of an instrument or drum that nobody has used. Let's face it: there are a finite, albeit vast, number of records that were produced in the 60's and 70's. Eventually they will all have been listened to and sampled from. I look at it like clay: same material, different sculptures...