Some bitter thoughts on you elitists and mixtapes
First off, I just started reading this message board again (unfortunately) and every time I check it there seems to be no lack of comments that dismiss new hiphop listeners. I've heard comments like "(you kids that have only listened to underground hiphop since 97 dont know what you're talking about)" and "(you dumb internet kids that think that Midnight Marauders is oldschool)" and the like. Its disturbing to me.
Stop thinking that because you've listened to the music a little longer that it gives you the right to dismiss some kid's opinion because he's only been into hiphop for a few years. The words should be judged on their merit, not the age of the person.
I started listening to hiphop in 83, so I guess to me you jackasses are all "newjacks", huh? No. But you fucks need to stop you're little elitist attitudes and realize that everyone had to start somewhere (including yourselves)
As far as mixtapes, I really feel that there is nothing wrong with being reimbursed for your troubles in doing such a project...but when being reimbursed becomes your sole purpose than you deserve no respect. Promote music in this way because you want to and because its in your heart, not to make a name for yourself in the "scene" or pocket some extra money.
If anyone wants a mixtape, I will personally make one for you (all be it without exclusives and skits and what not) in return for you sending me one.
Fuck the mentality that is perpetrating as "independent" hiphop.
Another one goes into retirement.
I'm so hip hop that I'm asking for a Master P doll for Christmas and I just started listening to rap music yesterday.
of course you did, Digs, because you have the intellect of a cucumber.
If I talked about DMX, porn stars, and the latest Fubu wears maybe I could hold your prepubescent attention span for a minute.
Well, you'll get your way because personally I believe that, not only are the MAJORITY of you a bunch of idiots, but that "underground" has no business being in the title of this site.
I may be the last fucking person in the world to not subscribe to your idealist notions of what a 'hiphop' fan should look or act like, and I may not make a dime off any of the things I do for the local scene, but I would just assume listen to Brittney Spears for the rest of my days then associate with a bunch of internet geeks that think theyre 'underground" because they dress a certain way or whatever.
Youre all sad...I will not post again..
I hope that " someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum away"
return to your lame anonymous conversations now.
i have a blair from facts of life blow up doll, does that count...
i liked it better when ugly spice stayed off the board, didnt you.
Master P has his own doll. How many of you have that??
You might not like master P's music. ( I particularly don't either) but what's the difference between P and say "Anticon"?
Master P hasent changed his music any. And this dude built a 300 million dollar EMPIRE, off making the music that he likes, and he had been doing for free for years. Everyone should aspire to be like P. Not make his music, but have his business savvy...
man, if you're using Master P in your argument, then youre arguing from the wrong end.
So that little statment leaves me with one question: where is the line between underground/independent hiphop and commercial if making money is such a priority?
On the real, I have NO PROBLEM with heads making all the money that they can off of hip hop. I'd rather it be an entrepreneur like Next or even Master P than a big media conglomerate like MCA/Universal, Dreamworks, Time/Warner, etc. Decentralization without loss of quality is what the the new millenium holds for music in general. Hip hop was born out of competition, and what my dear friends is more competetive than capitalism?
Survival of the fittest (freshest?), cause heads gotta eat.
DJ Next, make your money man.
Imma buy your tape when it hits NYC.
Make sure you buy my sh*t also.
G-BAttle ~ Poisoned Ivy
Be ashured...my heart was, is and always will be in the right place.
Ive been in hiphop long enuff to know the evils of what "getting paid" can do.
This mixtape was nothing but love(for everyone) and im glad i can get paid off it.
"far as mixtapes, I really feel that there is nothing wrong with being reimbursed for your troubles in doing such a project...but when being reimbursed becomes your sole purpose than you deserve no respect. "
there's nothing wrong with being paid for something you love...there is something wrong with loving it because you get paid for it.
Next, maybe your words have been misconstrued, but over the past few weeks there has been a definite impression that youre after the Hamiltons. Whenever someone dissed your tape you would say something like "(fuck it...Ive already made a lot of money of it)" or something similar. Make all the money you want, kid...just make sure your heart is in the right pace...sometimes it seems like its not.
maybe I'm gettin hard of hearin in my old age...
what's next got to do with this?
next is a cool ass motherfucker that loves hip hop and thats all i know. you guys hear those exclusives? my man traveled around to get that hot shit for you ungreatful heads. he came through to philly and put my partner on that shit. he didn't know us or our shit i don't think. but, he met us and shit was peace and he put my man down. he didn't have to. he could've fronted like so many so called hip hop heads do. thats what hip hop's all about. buildin'. if you ain't trying to build it's all good you just hit the road for the next movement. but i'm saying, he put mad work in and put mad heads down. what the fuck? that don't deserve a little cream in the coffee???????
"brings a certain uncertainty about"
but KNOW THIS,
contrary to popluar belief, making money is not my sole purpose. Ive put more money into hiphop than i will ever see back. i love hiphop and will continue to do hiphop related things weather i prophet from it or not...and i still feel there is nothing wrong with making money off something you love doing. when i say "its all about the benjies" and " i like my pockets fat not flat" its sarcastic...i do however understand the internet brings a certain uncertainty about and its ez for people to misintepret things said.Thats why, for the most part..i TRY not to take it too serious when im online...i know alot of people do. Ive handed out 100s of free mixtapes in my time and gave away free beats and did much favors as labors of love to hiphop. Thats not the point. The point is..there is nothing wrong with making money off something you love doing and would be silly to think otherwise.
I dont get corrupted by the money and do hiphop just for money and anyone who knows me personally knows this.
"if you dont know me by now, i doubt ull ever know me"- krs
I replied, because i feel this was directed towards me...i could be wrong.
I feel you. get at me.