The transition from underground to commercial
What up, ya'll? I know I haven't been dropping much lately, but I've been
dealing with the realness. So, here we go.
The magic word for today is transition. More specifically, what constitutes
the transition of an artist from "underground" to "commercial". To some,
underground means not being too overexposed. If that's the case, I'm
probably the most underground cat in existence. I've been writing,
freestyling and producing for over 10 years and save for one verse on the
Knights of the Roundtable CD with my boy Insight and a few shout-outs on
88.9 and Phoenix magazine, I haven't gotten ANY exposure.
Others think underground relates to the topics an artist chooses to spit
about, which in my opinion is fucking ridiculous!! You think you're
underground cause you memorized the Periodic Table of the Elements and use a
Thesaurus every time you sit down to write? Please, kid! All that stupid
spaced out baby talk doesn't make you sound smart, it makes you sound like
someone trying to use big words to overcompensate for either 1. a wack voice
2. wack lyrics 3. wack production or 4. a wack combination of all 3!!
It seems heads are quick to dis someone that they once dickrode because they
say they sold out! C'mon now. Most of ya'll so-called "underground" heads
are mad new to this shit! I read a post earlier that pretty much summed it
up. It said that most of you cats are just ex-ravers looking for a new
"community" to fit into. When I go to some Hip-Hop shows, I can't help but
"When we perform it's just coffee shop chicks and white dudes..."
Shit is real. I hear heads dis Nas, JayZ, Common, Mos Def, etc. My
question is, if you're dissing these cats, WHO do you think is making the
real shit? I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but rhythmless, wack-voiced,
unshaven, porno-star wannabe whiteboys are not, never have been, and never
will be Hip-Hop, underground or otherwise!!
I know I'll get a lot of dumb replies to this but if you've ever peeped me
on this board before, you already know that I don't give a frog's fat ass
WHO disagrees with me, ya heard?
I'd rather hear someone like Nas and JayZ talk about material things with
style than listen to some former Techno-head squaking about some meaningless
drivel! Throw no rhythm or flow and a wack voice into the mix, and the Hot
Boys even start sounding good!!
This post wasn't meant to dis anyone and if you feel dissed, it's probably
because you recognized yourself in what I said and want to validate
yourself. Before you go give yourself a fuckin' blister on your little
finger typin' some bullshit to me, just save yourself the time and effort!!
I don't care if I made you cry! SOMEONE has to speak the real around here
and if you check my record, EVERYTHING I've ever posted about has been
On the other hand, if you have any coherent thoughts on this issue, I'd be
glad to engage in meaningful discourse with you.
Just my humble take.
Hey cheeseball(or whatever it is you are calling yourself this week)-
You are such a fucking herb that I forgot what your other nick was. Ya fucking moron, if you are such a tough guy who is down for the cause, why you got to be changing your nick. Afraid that I might remember who the fuck you were? How is that vacation in Ft Lauderdale going? Don't make me expose your bitch ass too. firstname.lastname@example.org or whatever it is you made up for an email address, if you are going to come here and start beef, at least have the nuts to post your email address. You don't like my art, fine I don't care. You must not realize that you don't fall into the category of people whose opinion of me matters. You don't like my "toy ass graffiti lettering" tough shit, of all the graf fonts that I have, that is the one that I like the best. Therefore I use it. Does this pic do more for you?
fuck you, when you become a man and don't have to hide your identity you might be able to step, until then.... I am out.
Highme- to protect and SERVE
SonDu- I am truly sorry for bringing this shit into your post.
highme - how many more times are you going to poast that terrible drawing with the toy ass graffiti lettering?
xfactor - jay z is one of the dopest mc's to come out - you probably dont like his simple lyrical content because you think big words spit real fast over a boring ass beat is "dope". jay z has the ability to make any beat sound good along with changing his flow - hardly ever rhyming the same way twice.
you "crumbs on the table" dont seem to understand that all of the first hip hop that came out was bragging and boasting rhymes about cars, ice, and dope women. now you fools get all nervous when you hear jay z or hot boyz doing the same thing... insecure crabs. yet when questioned about your hip hop credibility -"yo i'm down with the old school" krs, rakim, kool g, and especially cold crush, fantastic 5, fuckit i could go on forever... all spit what "commercialrappers " spit now.
news flash - hip hop didnt start when rawkus came out!
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Mike Jeffcoat collects M.U.S.C.L.E.S.
honestly, i didn't even read your post cause the attention span is shot and Juan Agosto is waiting on me in the living room puffin' the hazy....so maybe later.
"On the other hand, if you have any coherent thoughts on this issue, I'd be
glad to engage in meaningful discourse with you."- Word, probably something that needs to be said more around here.
Its time for the highme broken record again. But some of this I haven't said before.
- Everyone is the same color on vinyl. If your wack, it shows. If your dope its apparent.
- Can't we all just get a bong.
- Although I am white, I realize that it exists, and I have no problem with "guest" status.
- Its all music, some music is good, some music is bad. This is something that spans all genres, not just hip hop.
- To me, sellout status isn't based upon record sales. But the conformation of ones style to something for mass appeal.
- It has nothing do to with the fact that they are black, but most of my favorite emcees are black. i.e. Black Thought, Mos Def, Common Sense, Talib Kweli, Posdunous, Trugoy, Aceyalone, Q-tip etc. etc.
- Back in 89 when I spent the summer in a hell hole in Kansas, most of the other kids that I knew were runnin out to get NWA I bought and played constantly, 3 Feet High & Rising. And to this day, I prefer positive music that I can learn something from, which isn't to say I don't like aggressive or violent music too, it's just a preference.
Good post, keep doing what you Du, its obvious to me that it is for love.
"while others represent, I present my rep" - Plug 1
Nas' new album is terrible. The lead single was painful to listen to. The video was lame. He gets props off his first album (posted on this today already) which was good but should actually be considered an E.P., since its so fuckin' short (under 40 minutes I believe).
Jay-Z, everything I've heard since Vol 2 has been really fuckin' bad (I haven't heard the new album-only the lead single-which is bad). And I mean bad meaning bad.
Mos Def and Common are making "the real shit."
Your post is honest (only you could say), passionate, yes. The truth? I don't think so.
Before anyone complains asking why this was posted twice:
I posted it again for SonDu because he couldn't get the entire post to show up for some strange reason (funny, I had no problems posting it)...