Highme, Give Me A F*cking Break....
"Problem is, Quiz 7, Opus317 and all these guys don't realize that not only is the term "underground" done, dead and caput. They don't need to lash out at everybody else's tastes. It's called elitism, and it sucks..."
And that's MY bad?!?!? CHECK YOURSELF!
If anyone is the elitist its people like you who jump at the chance to diss people like anticon for dressing how they want to, and not LOOKING hip hop..and your not an elitist??????? But I AM, for wanting to talk about an underground artist on UNDERGROUNDHIPHOP.com, rather than Jay-Z? I don't get that. Tell me again how I'M the elitist...please.
I am one of the only people on here who isn't biased, who actully LISTENS TO THE MUSIC FOR THE MUSIC...everyone else here is just trying to win a popularity contest...A few heads on here know the deal, yet you and people like you will always find a way to criticise them...or be a hypocrite.
As far as the term underground being dead..what is that now? The new trend? You fools going to turn on the underground now? Trying to find a way to convince yourself that mainstream rap is really the top level of talent. In the midst of your struggle to feel popular, you say such retarded things. Highme, dont you run a part of this board? Why don't you change it from undergroundhiphop.com to everyotherrapsite.com? Seems to me like that would be a better fit.
I don't like Jay-Z, get over it..If he was underground I still wouldnt like him., I don't like his music..maybe you fools should try making your decisions about artists based on their MUSIC to..rather than if you'll look cool to the next man for stating you're opinions.
yay, internet tuff guys galore
hey highme, remember when ou said something along the lines of going to someone to punch them instead of them coming to you? then calling me bitch? yeah well i got a sister in portland and i think i due for a visit, sweet dreams...
by the way for all of you little bickerers(sp): "if it sounds good, it is good" - Duke Ellington
Quiz you're worse than a beligerent christian trying to convert everybody who passes by. You need to realize that not everybody wants saving. If Illogics song got heavy rotation (which it NEVER will due to the fucked up record industry) most people wouldn't think twice about it. People want to be entertained, they all don't want to have life changing experiences everytime they listen to music. I spent Monday at some relatives house, chilling with my wife's 15 year old cousin (and the Drunkles as well.) We spent about 2 hours flipping between Mtv and Mtv2 (then I hijacked the remote and watched Snatch and Traffic.) Do you know what the main market force in music is? The 12-18 demographic? They are the ones that Mtv is geared at, they are the ones buying up all the garbage. They are the ones that the ad agency spend money to get. A Nelly video came on Mtv2, followed by a J5 video. Do you know which one the 15 year old liked? Nelly, direct quote is "Jurassic 5 just sucks, god they are awful." She likes The Gorillaz though, so she has that going for her. Anyways, your preaching to the choir here, but don't realize it. You feel like you got to save us, to get us to "wake up." People don't happen upon underground hip hop, you got to find it on your own. There isn't a huge banner ad campaign by Quest here on thesource.com or thareal.com (or whatever .com you prefer.) For the most part, people here enjoy music, and many different types. One of the best things about this forum is some of the other bands, from other genres (**gasp not hip hop**) that I have discovered because of heads here.
I don't know why I have wasted time with you. You're a thick skulled idiot who is always going have a huge chip on his shoulder. Join the Peace Corps if you want to save people, I just want to be entertained.
One last thing, in the future please refrain from putting words in my mouth. You have constantly inserted things that "I believe or think" into your posts which I have never said or done. So, if you want to quote me, go ahead. If you want to bitch out everybody because your opinion is trampled due the fact you act like a fuckhat, so be it. Do not, unless you have seen me write it, assume another thing about me, it makes it too easy to break your faulty logic down.
You are such a pussy.
break down your walls.
In hip hop, especially the underground..the heads should appreciate the fact that this music isn't watered down mainstream bullshit..(I dont hate all mainstream artists) This has nothing to do with wether or not the worlds fair. If you aren't going to appreciate a hip hop artist just because they look a certain way, you are an asshole who doesn't belong here, doesn't deserve to listen to this music. That makes you a superficial dick head who needs to be listening to Dave Mathews or something to that effect.
The illogic song is the best writen hip hop song ever in my opinion..it has a basic hook, that says something deeper than any other emcee has ever been able to in any words...
"When I walk past puddles my reflection calls beggin me, to answer his questions about life and his perceptions, and tell him why I hate him so much, damn, I wonder why I hate him so much"
Now maybe that song just hits home, but he's making you look at hating yourself, like hating your best friend in the world..making you feel empathy for yourself!, that's crazy..It actually makes you try to convince yourself, that you arent split up into 2 parts, just so you can feel like you aren't treating anyone badly.
How anyone could not respect me for thinking that song is amazing is beyond me.
But then again, like I said before a hundred times..the assholes here don't care about songs like that, they aren't looking for passion, or anything real, they just want to fit in, post wack pictures, and tell people like me that shit like this is wack music. Tell me that Jay-Z could ever concieve a track like that, or that if he somehow could, that he's shoot a video for it..I dont think so.."Stan" was made a video because millions of people were raving about it..that's cool as fuck, it was orginally supposed to be, "I'm back" I believe. That's what I'm talkin about though..If illogic could make this a video, mainstream TV and radio would put it in rotation, you know how many people that would touch? Do you know what that would do for hip hop? And you still wonder why I get mad when yall talk about jay-z on an UNDERGROUND hip hop board? Damn, think about the big picture for a second.
she's chilling in my lap, getting in some daddy time. She's still young enough where she isn't much work, yet.
I'm finna head to bed though.
take it easy.
Finishing up summer session part 2 next week.
This last year I'm devoting to the history part of my double major. English major will be complete at the end of Fall quarter.
How's the new kid?
one can act like an idiot without giving an opinion
i find it funny that you all say thatthings like we have different opinions ..so be it. but then you turn around and say fuck you your an idiot....what are you basing the fact that they are an idiot on...thier opinions. thats all any of us know about each other on this board, our opinions.
Because keystyling is so much more intelligent.
Sexecutioner- the hypocrisy is that is whole statement...
You people generalize too much
...is nothing but a generalization.
I see your point. If it was meant to be grammatically correct, and he was meaning "You people who generalize..." it wouldn't be hypocritical. However, his whole steez has been a "Me against the world" thing and by "you people" I am pretty sure he meant "everybody who isn't me."
Then again, I could be wrong.
why dont you guys battle on the MC board. this is stupid as hell.
it's people who dont appreciate other people..THATS what bothers me..
Welcome to the big bad world.
this just in, not everybody likes everybody, not everybody shares the same opinion.
Now, you were steamed about the response you got to your post about Illogic. Yeah, you got a lot of shit in that post. Welcome to Ughh. I haven't gone back to read your previous 800 some odd posts to get a full taste of your postal abilities, but you immediately got pissy at people. That's what I was talking about, not your taste in music. In fact, in that exact thread I said...
As far as the Illogic goes, I don't have Real Audio installed, nor will I install it so I can't listen to it. If somebody wants to point me towards an Mp3 of it, I will gladly listen to it with a unbiased view.
I got no problem with new music and people pointing out new artists that I haven't heard. (I even **gasp** gave Jay-Z a chance.) But I don't have real player, nor will I install it (same goes with Audiogalaxy,) so all the links that you and Opus want to throw up to .ra files, I am going to ignore. It was, and continues to be, your actions, not your opinions that makes me dislike you and carry on with this ridiculous conversation.
What's up X. I gots to head over and read your poem on the other side. How's UCLA treating you?
Without taking sides, You people just have a problem generalizing wasn't a hypocritical statement. You see, the you is a pronoun. As far as you know he meant "you people who generalize too much have a problem generalizing." While it's not the most grammatically correct of sentences, it's not hypocritical for obvious reasons.
quiz 7's opinion is important.
in bizarro world.
lol "highme served you"
XFactor, you are a pretty intelligent person, I can see you're reasoning, and I think a lot like you do...however, you are missing the whole point.
This isn't about me or anything I've gone through..it's people who dont appreciate other people..THATS what bothers me..and It's not because I was never appreciated..I have plenty of people who appreciate me. Have people always appreciated me? no, but the same can be said for everyone on this board.
Some just mature faster than others. The reason I'm angry right now is because I posted a topic, about a song I thought was excellent, and the topic turned into me catching hate for liking the song..what's that all about? It just puts underground internet fans in perspective a little bit. A perspective that pisses me off.
'art rap'? you mean nerd rap
oh wow. the last 2 responces just broke it all down.
Quiz 7, how does it feel to reveal your personal hang ups to a bunch of heads on a hip hop site?
Every time you are "debating" with cats on here you always discuss social cliques.
I know the world traumatized you. I know high school was a horrible experience for you. Anitcon and Eminem speak to you, that's fine. You respect Anticon's artists because they are the "outsiders of hip hop" and they embrace that image and sound cool to you in their very "uncoolness."
It is time to carve out your own clique and stop being so concerned with those that never accepted you.
The world is full of shitheads of all types. Sadly, you usually come off as one in your posts.
Highme served you.